Is anyone here for George W. Bush?

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by BlowinInTheWind420, Nov 3, 2004.

  1. BlowinInTheWind420

    BlowinInTheWind420 Member

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    I was just curious if there is anyone here that supports Bush at all. Personally, I'm not crazy about Bush because he is a typical politician and to me their all the same, but I support him more so than John Kerry. The way I see it, Bush is the lesser of two evils.

    peace, love, and sunshine
     
  2. staples420

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    What makes you think he's the lesser of the two evils?

    Bush is the epitome of evil. The man's a total dick.
     
  3. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    the thing is tho, that bush is good for america. just not for the rest of the world.
     
  4. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    Haha, what!? Are you crazy? How is he good for America?
     
  5. lover/young_peace

    lover/young_peace Senior Member

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    Explain further please... :p
     
  6. pandiebeer

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  7. NikkiLou6387

    NikkiLou6387 ~peace~

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    the only thing i agree with bush on is no late term abortions. if you wanted to abort, you should have thought about that in your second trimester. but thats it. other than that, the man is a total ignoramus
     
  8. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    We've either just hit peak oil, or are about to in the next couple years (ie: last year was the first year ever where we consumed more oil then we discovered). Oil is a finite resource that is essential to almost every product we use (all plasitcs, fertilizers, gasoline [thus the the transportation of everything], etc). Any non-petroleum product is strictly a luxury (think that wood furniture you bought doesn't use a petroleum-based finish). With the War on Iraq, America just guaranteed itself access to the second largest reserve in the world... More and more oil-producing countries are switiching their reserves to the Euro (making it harder and harder for Americans to afford), while the American Dollar plummets. Sucks, but oil is more valuable then cash now, and without oil, America will crumple.
     
  9. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    I'm starting to lean towards blaming America as opposed to Bush for the War in Iraq... But I still hate Bush for the exploitation
     
  10. NikkiLou6387

    NikkiLou6387 ~peace~

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    well ignorant americans did support our lying president. which is worse, screwing an intern, or screwing a country?
     
  11. Orsino2

    Orsino2 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    At least Bill had fun while in office and did the country some good at the same time... :p
     
  12. NikkiLou6387

    NikkiLou6387 ~peace~

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    exactly
    orsino2, i'll join ur fan club, just i dont wanna read that long ass thread
     
  13. benny

    benny Member

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    Bush is not a good president at all and since hes re-elected they are going to be drilling more oil in alaska but for spooner to say you blame america is wrong, there are alot of good folk here who are oppossed to the war who protested and continue to do so. The fact is we have no say. Are country is wickedly dived on these subjects if you watched the t.v it's almost a matter of north and south I'm not putting complete judgement on it but the votes and where they where comiing from showed this for itself the areas that have the major cities with the most diverse and free thinking peoples voted democrat the northeast, the great lakes region and the west coast. I feel why you would say america is at fault for the war because that is the way it seems, but it's just not true. Second if you think bush is a good guy you seriously need to evaluate what you think the value of human life and true freedom is, there not letting gay people marry here in most states and that also is something where it seems like a fifty fifty split. I think anyone of consentual age man-man,man woman,woman-woman or man-man-woman, sould be able to marry if they chose so it shouldn't be someone else right to say what can be done in someone's personal life just because of there own religous beliefe's. Thank's for letting me vent ,live free, I love ya people's.
     
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  15. BlowinInTheWind420

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    So is drilling oil in Alaska that might upset some of the species in the region more important than the life of an unborn child? People, where are your morals. I'm not very religious at all, I'm almost as bad as they come, but honestly I'd rather have a president that goes down on his knees before God than one who didn't. Furthermore, I am not a liberal and I don't really agree with liberal views, and from what I gather, most people that support Kerry do. I don't neccassarily think Bush is the greatest guy. but I trust him more than Kerry. And if Bush is such a shitty president, why did he win the election with more popular votes than any president in history? In that aspect, why did he win the election at all? Maybe because deep down people know that we needed to keep him in office through this war. There was a quote said back when Roosevelt was in office during the depression that was something to the effect of "There's no sense changing horses in the middle of the river", and I agree. I don't agree with war, but seriously ya'll after 9/11, what were we supposed to do? Sit back and be "tolerant" of them blowing up our cities and killing out people? We had no choice but to go to war. Sometimes that's the only alternative. And don't even get me started on abortion and gay marriage. That is another post for another time. And back to the oil thing...I hear people bitching about how much oil we are using, whenever they use it themselves, ya dig what I'm saying? These are the same people that talk about living only a natural life. It baffles me. Don't blow up at me for having different views than what hippies are "expected" to have. Exercise the tolerance and understanding you so frequently speak of, and give these things a chance.

    peace and love
     
  16. Orsino2

    Orsino2 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    This war is wrong. If we go into another country that did not have to do with any of this and start blowing shit up, what does that get you? 10,000 dead? 100,000 dead? You don't know because it isn't over yet. Our part isn't playing offense - that's what terrorists do, they blow shit up and terrorize people. Now, Bin Laden only killed say... 4,000 people, we come back by killing shitloads of civillians and are in the wrong country to begin with... is there any logic in that at all? You tell me. We play defense to defend our country, not attack others who had no relation. Not only that, but Donald Rumsfeld even admitted it! It doesn't matter wether or not Bush loves jesus and prays to God... I've heard of people voting for Bush and saying that Kerry is Jewish when that isn't the truth - he's catholic. In times like these, we don't want a president who bases their opinion on ideals and religion, we need one that bases their opinions on fact, hard truth, evidence, and clues.

    I'll leave you with some food for though - In this case, a terrorist is a freedom fighter that attacks you, a freedom fighter is a terrorist who attacks somebody else.

    ~ George
     
  17. benny

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    your saying you would rather have him go into alaska than go to iraq? that's the most intelligent thing I've heard all day. The fact is that when the oil is gone where gonna find another way to survive and produce\. So why not now we don't need to be in iraq or alaska we don't need oil we need a better way witch we are perfectly capable of finding and already have. it's just that someone else not me or you, but probably mr.bush won't make his money on every possible resource our home can provide, yes are home. You have to know as well as I that it is not necessary to be in Iraq or alaska or where-ever. All this rightious I'm an american I need this , and that where allways right shit is gettin old quick where all citizens of the earth first and we owe here our duty and care first and foremost. Peace and love ya
     
  18. benny

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    we need a president who is caring, has virtue , dignity and respect for the earth her resources and the people and life on it.
     
  19. benny

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    It is not the point of using resources or oil it is how you use them.Having a president that makes his own beliefes and religion the reason and drive behind his actions is a hindrance and cult like my views, and alot of others are not his, abortion is a tough subject also it has nothing to do with alaska though and I'm not sure what ya meant by that . But nobody wants abortion nobody says they love abortion but the thing is untill your ready or MrBush is ready or someone eles is ready to take in all the unwanted children you have no right in saying anything. I help to raise a child that is not mine and it is a difficult thing my whole family has to help to raise this child and it is not and easy thing. I would like to hear your views on gay marriage because I can assure you your wrong so post away I no you don';t have the right to say and all open like minded people might think so also your starting problems from your own hate and misunderstanding. As for 9/11 it is a terrible thing. WE could of had Osama bin laden but didn't get him that's why we where in afganastan and we are still there thgey don't want to get him he's there pawn we could go anywjhere now saying where looking for him. People are dying everyday my friend all over the world this is happening alot of this is our own governments fault peace and love anyone open understanding people message me we need to stand together.
     
  20. BlowinInTheWind420

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    Also, might I add...

    For the people bashing Bush for going to war, don't forget that Kerry, who was on the senate, voted in favor of going overseas to fight. So stop and think before you chew Bush's ass for taking us to war.
     

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