Christianity

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religion is so downbeat, lets talk about something more important. So what beer are you drinkin' right now? :H

 

Meh.

 

- How could the bible hold true if it didnt exist?...in that case...it doest exist! but Gods laws still do...people did follow God before there was a bible..those are the ppl who are written about in the bible..they seemed to manage...
-I dont believe in God because I do not want to accept a fate that deems life pointless. God calls for christians to not fear death because we have 'beate the grave'..Im still working on this...
- God doesnt have low self esteem.. but we are his creations and ge loves us..he wants us to know his blessings and love and the peace we can feel with him!
-What makes any religion to its followers 'the true religion'? faith. When people post this in here I have to woder are you posting these kinds of posts in every religious forum? i the buddhist thread? How about muslim? do you question why athiests have no faith?
-I will refrain from answerig this one cuz im not gona start a holy war.

I could give you proof of Gods power..its all around...but I suspect you wouldt listen and just come up with more questions and excuses.

 

youre like the physcho christians that say the same questions from their point of view, and i bet you bitch about them too. you know, the ones that make the whole group look stupid. well youre making the agnostic/athiest group look stupid, guessing you are that is. im agnostic and saw this as nothing more than a retarded attack on peoples beliefs.. tssk tssk

1. yup, they followed the torah along with other things of course, but christianity did come from judaism after all.. same god, so since you said people followed god, im guessing you mean your god. so ya, the jewish people followed god far before the bible, with the torah. after all jesus was a jew right..

although...

lol

2. exactly, people always go on about how do you know your religion is the true religion. ive asked it myself even. mostly just to see if people can give a decent answer. and yes, faith is the best answer.. and really, faith is the only true answer.

3. well you couldnt give proof of his power, just like theres no proof of your religion being the true religion, it comes down to faith. if there was proof of god beyond faith, then you would of had more to say about christianity being the true religion. people hold the bible as proof. "miracles" as proof. even life, the earth, everything, as proof. but without a faith in god these things arent proof on bit. being agnostic, i dont believe in god, but i dont believe there isnt one. i have seen no reason so far to go either way, and believe i never will.

 

Well it wouldn't be true that the Bible existed

I'm not sure what you mean by "hold true." But perhaps you mean to ask, "How could the Bible, whose writers were unreliable, be considered true?" In which case I would why you're begging the question.

No

No, if I weren't conscious, what would there be for me to fear?

I don't think His presence is uncertain at all. It's more of a matter of accepting what's given to you.

The claims made in my religion correspond to reality.

By virtue of my religion being true all others must necessarily be false since it can be inferred from propositions set forth in scripture that my religion is not inclusive of other religions which contradict it. Therefore Allah and Krishna do not exist.

What is your criteria for proving something?

 

if God doesn't have low self esteem, then how come He smiteth those who don't do what he tells them to do? Sounds like He has anger/control issues.

 

if the bible did not exist then i will still hav god,
i dint find god by reading the bible,i found him because i called out to him adn he rescued me!
the bible is encouragement and guidence in written form,and things to remember about ure faith....examples of good men and women and also bad ones.

but thats not how it is,gods word will always remain true and it will always be

 

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Logic.

 

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none of this should even be a topic all it does is leave it open to bash someone's religion witch in turn causes more division, believe in what you want, dont critisize someone else's and if you want to learn do so.

 

yeah gotta agree with benny.. and why do you try to sound smart thumontico when you make stupid remarks like jesus was christian?

 

Okay. Logical laws are absolute and completely conceptual. They are not a property of matter nor are they a property of energy. However, they do exist and they transcend all people at all times. In fact, scientists USE these logical absolutes as a basis for verifying their science.The problem for the atheist is accounting for their existence. Since the logical absolutes are conceptual, they transcend all people at all time and are absolute in all circumstances (they are absolute). Conceptual Absolutes cannot be accounted for in an atheistic worldview. But they can be accounted for in a theistic one. The Absolute God with and absolute mind, has conceived of the logical absolutes. They are a reflection of His mind. Theists can offer an explanation for the existence of logical laws where the atheist cannot.

Sure I can. And if God exists, it is entirely plausible (and likely too). Your statement that it is absurd can only be true if you assume there is no God (and even then, it might not be absurd). Why do you assume that it is an absurd claim?

Darwin's original theory or the multitudes of theories that have followed? I don't want to get off on another evolution debate though, so, while I don't agree with evolution per se, you will have to start another thread in order to get a more in-depth response.

 

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jesus was not a christina....jesus was a jew.
christian comes from christ....to be christ like.....jesus was the prime exmample,the one in which christians should follow!

 

Talk about an assumption! I have never seen a full blown Bible type miracle, yet I believe. You can have a personal experience without it being a miracle. And let me ask you the same question, without socialization (interaction with other people) and exposure to atheism, what leads you to believe there is no God?

Saying "there is no evidence" generally has two problems: 1) It is impossible to know all evidence throughout the universe (so the statement is unsubstantiated). 2) It is usually just begging the question (so the argument is fallacious).

So why do you believe there is no God?

It doesn't. However, when people begin to try and emulate Christ in their lives and suddenly (not overnight, of course) families become closer, psychological wounds heal faster, people who would not be considered "strong" are able to endure the most amazing hardships, etc. These are the better indicators IMHO. I don't believe that you can necessarily look to the physical world (even medicine) to find definitive proof for God. However, there are too many radically changed lives to simply dismiss the idea of God. Is it anecdotal evidence? Yes. Does that mean that it is completely unreliable? No, not at all. Just on sheer testimony alone, there are millions (possibly more than a billion) people on this planet that claim to have direct experience with the supernatural. I am not going to say "see, there's your proof," but when we have a phenomenon that widespread, one must seriously consider the possibility of the reality of the the phenomenon before simply dismissing it because of one's own presuppositions.

 

I believe it actually means "little Christ."

 

which wud mean the same thing....to b a MINI/little of something ure bein like the orginal