Hippies and the military?

I'm a young hippie chick and I have fallen in love with a guy who is a couple years older than me. We were "involved" for a while and then he enlisted in the army. He didn't have much of a choice because he couldn't afford to go to college, but I don't know how supportive I can be of his decision. I love him and it breaks my heart that I feel this way, but the idea of spreading my legs for a killer and a part of the "war machine" makes me sick. Am I overreacting?

Peace

 

yes you're over reacting to the killer and war machine part.getting a college education is the wrong reason to be joining the military though.you two could've figured out a differant way to get yourselves through college.you can make the best of it though and i'm sure everything is going to work out o.k......that's the advice of this old hippie and veteran.

 

then go fuck a homeless person and STFU...

 

wow.anyway orison i was reading your post about the soldier that fragged five soldiers at the counseling center and saw america attacks was only for members so i wasn't able to post.i was just going to say something about it's indicitive that things are not going well overseas.thanks for posting the story.in the meantime i'm going to try joining that forum as it sounds like an interesting one.

 

I was active in a PTSD group but I just sat there and pissed them off picking on them..
there are really ridiculous mofo claiming ptsd symptoms when they sniff carburetor cleaner to get high..
blah blah blah .. Im so depressed and Im huffing paint.. its enough for a vet to arm themselves to the T and whack everyone in the group..
stupid ass hilljacks that lacked a education joined the army and now blame a years worth of sand for their mental problems. they had problems from the get go. And should have never been recruited in the first place..
My 2cents..

 

well sure in some cases that's true.i think shell shock is a valid condition though.i think shrinks,lawyers,the public and the individuals themselves have in some cases linked the term ptsd with shell shock.i've seen ww1 films of soldiers who had gone nuts from weeks on end in the trenches and combat.i know what you mean though.i'm afraid we might be frightening the op though.on the other hand it may show the human side of being a soldier.

 

I have shell shock, on occasion I hear really loud booms before I fall asleep..
I think in some cases in the states the PSTD can be brought on by boredom..
Much routines and excitement, loads of activities to do while on active duty..
They cant just take a man out the trenches and give them a walmart job..
But the recent new wave of violence in Afghanistan and Iraq, I dont see them pulling out anytime soon..
Not like Vietnam when a soldier could carry a Playboy or a Hustler and squeeze one out.. :dupe:
These magizines are banned http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,167090,00.html

 

i guess i kind of lucked out.i was only in country 17 days.an army medic i was wounded in my first fire fight.that was may of 69.i didn't have to go back even though my wounds were fairly minor because nixon had just begun withdrawing troops at that time.i've never felt psychological problems from it so i shouldn't be one making statements about what is and isn't ptsd.i apologize.i did get a silver star and purple heart though so i did my job while there and am proud and glad i was able to help out a little while i was over there....i tried joining the america attacks forum but i couldn't figure out how to do it(duh on me.)i guess these posts belong over there but oh well.smoke a bowl and there it goes.

 

you fell in love with him before he was military, and i am sure he did not just join up without speaking with you about it right???

i fell in love with my husband in high school we lost touch and he joined the army, when i found him again he was still in the military and never could have second guessed my feelings for him because he was part of the military... he is out now, but I must say if you would leave him over this choice, it was not meant to be in the first place.......

 

Overreacting? No.

Soul searching, yes.

 

After reading some of your posts, I'm not surprised you'd attend a PTSD counseling session for vets just to amuse and entertain yourself.

Frankly, its rather hard to believe they would even admit you into the group. And even harder to believe you didn't get thrown-out.

 

This makes me think you are not genuine. So, do what the hell you want.
I don't care.

 

I'm an old Hippie guy - and also a military veteran of the Vietnam era. I did not see action, did not kill anyone or have anyone trying to kill me. Thank god for the godless Soviet Union - which required us to spy on them in the cold war.

I did not have a choice and joined the Air Force to avoid the slave Army (it is called conscription - forcing young men to fight against their will).

Now things are different and your young man joined an all volunteer army of his own free will. If you opposed this choice to him and he joined anyhow then he is perhaps not the guy for you.

I can't understand why anyone not actually starving would join an army engaged in two wars with a high mortality rate. College could wait - it is not all inclusive to living a good life, or more basic just living. He may just be a warrior type or deluded into that identity - which means a poor match for Hippie girl.

So, you have to determine if you want to support him or leave him. Did he go against your expressed wishes or will this blindside him to find out you can't coutenance a killer in the war machine between your thighs?

 

Its against the DOD directive to kick anyone out, Just think what the headline would read. Veteran affairs tries, but its the patient that doesn't respond to treatments. Its the same in civilian psychiatry..
As the same Dr's telling someone they are fucked in the head when they really are not. Only to get fucked in the head when given medication to a disorder, Disorders brought on by homelife and unable to readjust. I can understand that running around every single day and then back home to doing nothing. The body and mind is rambuncious, best thing to do is go to a gym..
Some dont relaize a million things change in you physically, From sleep to the way you eat or ate.. You dont have 20 guys around you doing the samething no more.. But where Im from there is a Mobile PTSD unit that will come to your house, they can call more members to have a session in your house if it comes to that, or you like. Usually only send 3. If you want you can go bowling..
Drugs and Alcohol play a major role in depression and memory such as flashbacks, Some can get stuck in a loop about shit they did, witnessed ect..
I wouldnt say so much entertaining. After a while its like anything else ineffective when the underlying problem is the patient.. Its difficult not to bring the bad shit up, but its even less difficult to move forward and not let the enemy defeat you.

 

I was just young enough to squeak out of Nam ... I was last year of the draft..and got a high number... ended up enlisting a few years later though...USAF

was on the rifle range in dec. of 74 and they announced no more troops to be sent over on the loudspeaker there... had to wiki that one and surprisingly enough my memory was correct.

I don't know what to say to the OP... too many unknowns. but????

the idea of spreading my legs for a killer and a part of the "war machine" makes me sick.

sounds pretty callous to me

Am I overreacting?

what do you think.. is what matters

 

i worked 20 years at a vets hospital.i usually worked a medicine ward but i occasionally floated to psych.i know there was times people would give counselors and each other shit.i probably would've too but being i was staff i had to kinda stay cool on my remarks.....but i remember once when i got back to the states i was on cq duty and i answered the phone .of course being the half ass soldier i was most of the time i didn't give my name and rank i just said hello.i was the base hospital some shrink's office was calling to inquire about your's truely.there wasn't the patient confideniality laws like now.well anyway for some reason the shrinks had been called about me and wanted some info.that was fun thinking up fun answers to their questions and of course they never knew who they were talking to.i never heard anymore about it and neither did i.but st8edge i'm curious what your thoughts are.like i said earlier i'm sure it will work out o.k.

 

We didn't really discuss it. It was sort of an "Oh by the way, I enlisted and am shipping out to boot camp next week."
So I guess I'm the one that got "blindsided". I mean, he knows how I feel about war and all that stuff and that I haven't necessarily had that great of an experience with the military (I am a Navy brat and both of my parents are always up my ass about my "liberal" views). So, I really don't know. I really hope it works out, but I just don't know. He's been in training for the past few months so I haven't really been able to talk to him about it

 

Also, I hate admitting it (but this is the internet so it's pretty much anonymous), but I'm scared of how much he's gonna change. I've had a few friends that have enlisted and they used to be really cool, nice people, but now... not so much. I'm afraid that he's just gonna turn into a real jerk when before he was such a sweet guy. And I'm really afraid that the different lifestyle's gonna make him lose all interest in me.
My fears and insecurities are probably unjustified, but like I said, I just don't know.
Peace

 

I think you have answered your original query and from my perspective that answer is that it likely is not working out. It doesn't appear to be much of a relationship here for him not to discuss his future with you. In other words he joined in a future that didn't seem to include you or your input.

You probably know it is time to move on and find another guy and let this one follow his course.

 

i have to say that since he didnt discuss it with you and that he just TOLD you about it. that is totally shitty on his part if he expects your relationship to last...... =(