Salvia

Who's done it? I did it for my last time last night and then threw that shit way. Last night was my third time doing it and it sucked. All these talking hands were holding me down and I couldn't get up.
The other two times I did it were awesome. The first time, I saw lots of colors, the second time I had to pick between living inside a citrus fruit for the rest of my life. i think I picked lime, which is weird.
What's the weirdest salvia trip you've ever had?

 

Never done it, but I just wanted to say I would have picked lime too, good choice.

 

I don't think it's really worth it. It's expensive and doesn't last long. I've only done it 4 times but never had a bad experience though.

I'd rather do shrooms though lol :hat:

 

visions of a goddess healing my girlfiriend at the time, who was suffering from shingles. the next morning i received a phonecall declaring that she felt all better. she was totally ignorant of my salvia experience the night before, and i think she still is. but she went from excrutiating pain to no pain literally overnight, that night.

another wierd one brought me to what reminded me of the story of jacobs ladder. it was a staircase, though, going forever in both directions, with angels walking up and down. there was a wall, only on one side, and in it were handles of baskets, the baskets translating into our human realm as something to do with the mental/spiritual wellbeing of individuals. every off kilter handle represented the depraved or insane, and the angels tried to fix them, straighten them out. it usually worked, but not always. i was largely ignored, except by one angel who was like a guide, a representative.

the wierdest transcends the ability of language to describe it by a long shot. i'll try and keep it short and simple...i became some sort of infinitely unfolding biomechanical thing, like a box or a matress, but alive, and moving, and expanding. i saw no entities but felt like i was being observed, and have often described the experience as having been an exhibit at some sort of transdimensional alien science fair.

salvia is brief, and it can be very profound, or it can scare the willies out of you. sometimes it is both. but for me, it has never once been fun, and i don't understand its use as a recreational drug. to me that seems foolish. i use it very rarely and with great caution these days, because the only trips i've ever had that were truly too much for me and wholly unpleasant have been with salvia extract. its not a toy...

 

agree with cc....shrooms are way better

 

nononono grapefruit rules all

 

I got a vial of it with a glass pipe for 20 at The Dead concert. I threw it away last night and lost the pipe at the concert though. I really wish i didn't smoke it last night. i feel so lethargic, which is the worst feelingin the world IMO.

 

first time doing it, i felt my heart beating out of my neck and i looked at my hands and they had turned into tiny sand particles like sandman in spider man 3.
2nd time doing it i saw tall crayons who were trying to prevent me from going pee

 

It's such a weird drug.
PS-I missed you
-lynsey

 

hahaaaaa. I think it's because I was making citrus soap the day before and I still smelled like the citrus oils. I thought I would have picked lemon as lemon is one of my favorite scents. I think ti was the vibrant green of the lime that drew me int hough. There was a citrus spinning wheel and I got to choose which slice of citrus it landed on. It was so weird.
Andy says I talk like I have down syndrome when I trip.

 

I purely did it for recreation. i have no itnerest in using drugs for spirituality or revealing things as I do that best when sober.
Nothing conrete, tangible or spiritual has ever happened while I've been on drugs.
I think we're all different and some people may have spiritual experiences and others might be stuck in a citrus fruit.

 

my opinion is that you can develop a lot spiritually without the use of psychedelics, but that psychedelics take it to a far more profound and bizarre level. it is virtually impossible to receive visions sans psychedelics unless you have some variety of delirium, in which case the visions are less easily trusted anyway.


i believe that the natural world uses psychedelic compounds to communicate directly with us, and most often with spiritual implications. the ability to perceive them as spiritual is entirely dependant on one's understanding of spirituality and one's willingness to listen. some of these messengers FORCE you to listen whether you're willing or not, salvia is one of them. the use of plants and fungi to help us access higher knowledge is as old as humanity itself, and its only within the past several centuries that such practices have been thought of as profane rather than profound.

the otherworldly strangeness of full blown psychedelic visions leads many to write them off as being meaningless, but my opinion of the experience is quite the opposite.

people who practice varieties of religious life without visions never meet their gods, never communicate directly with them back and forth, and until you come face to face with your god in a very literal sense, you can't imagine what true worship with every fiber of your being feels like. i am constantly awed by the ability of psychedelics to shatter my worldview and preconceptions.

in my opinion, the greatest spiritual discovery occurs with a combination of visions, religious ecstacy, boundary dissolution, and selflessness (as in, without a self, not as in simply being generous)

psychedelics are the most reliable method of reaching the most profound states of spiritual existance in this world, so i see no reason to settle for less. of course meditation, prayer, fasting, and deep thought are valuable in their own right, but the psychedelic experience has the potential to transcend far beyond this when used respectfully and properly

anyway, i find it wholly confusing how anybody could ever think of salvia as fun....awe-inspiring without a doubt, but never ever fun.

 

damn, you threw it away just because you had one unpleasant experience? it probably just sucked because you did it twice too close together (didn't you say you did it like last weekend or something? if not, nevermind). i know when i've done it, i've always needed a very long time to recover before wanting to do it again.

i agree that there's nothing spiritual about it; it's just fun and interesting, either while you're doing it, or once you come back and realize that the hell you were just going through was just due to the drug.

i've done it 3 times. the first 2, i was still somewhat aware of my actual surroundings, and was just unable to move or speak. it affected me a bit more than that, but describing it is hard.

the most recent time, i found myself suddenly being sucked away from earth into something, which i interpreted as death. i fought for a couple minutes, trying to figure out what i had done to end up dead. soon though, it became obvious that there was nothing i could do and my demise was inevitable, so i just accepted it, closed my eyes and let go. then i opened my eyes and saw that i was lying on my floor several feet from where i originally smoked the salvia, and i started laughing.

 

When I used to smoke weed,I found I enjoyed the basic regular stuff the most.Also I preffered simple rolling papers over bongs or anything fancy.But that's me.

 

salvia isn't weed and it won't affect you in a joint.

 

I didn't know that.Thankyou.--I mistakenly thought it was a form of weed/marijuana.

 

nah, looks similar, and you smoke it, but the similarities really end there.

it's done for an ENTIRELY different purpose.

 

i've done it twice now. the first experience was the most terrifying of my life. i've never taken a drug and then completely not known i was tripping. that's how intense the trip was. i took a monster rip off a rather large bong, and tripped for a good 20 minutes according to my friend. i really kind of freaked out, because it took me to a place where i felt very very trapped, and then everything inverted, and i wasn't just trapped, i was a part of the trap, and a voice (of someone i really dislike) kept telling me i had been here forever, and that i was just dreaming my other life. it was terrifying, and i came out of it saying over and over again, but who am i? who am i?

the second time i smoked just a little less... and i went back into the same damn trip as the first time. only it was slightly different. not much, but slightly. each time i've fought it... not because i want to, but because everything in the trip tells me this ugliness is reality, and i KNOW somewhere in my mind and/or soul that it's not, and i refuse to believe in its validity. the second time, i kept insisting, NO, this is not real! it can't be real! i know there is something else... this boring little pattern you've stuck me in is not reality. and then the pieces started coming apart, and i heard all these little voices yelling and they were upset that their world wasn't reality. and more pieces started coming apart, and we could see that there was another world out there, and i felt like someone was coming to rescue me. and then i came down and the pattern on my bed went 3-d and i realized that what i had just been in was totally a trip and almost exactly like the last one and i was like holy shit, lol! i was pretty pissed that i had the same trip. i don't know if i'm supposed to keep rejecting that confining reality until it completely goes away or if i have to go into it. gonna try both i suppose... if i have any control over what i choose when i'm deep in it... it hasn't felt like i can so far... i just kind of get sucked into this without meaning to.

i'm going to keep doing it until i can figure out what this trip is trying to tell me. until i can let go into it. i had no idea i had this really blocked area in myself that i'm so afraid of going that i just shut it all down. but after the second trip i'm less afraid, and i'm really excited to keep doing it. i've never had such an intense trip, nor have i ever had a frightening trip. this has been so far very frightening. though i've learned over the years that the things i'm most afraid of i have to go into. so i'm going to keep on until something comes through.

that being said, the trip itself is fun, and i love the swimmy after-effects. i'm reaching places in my mind heart and soul i never thought i'd go. i see a lot of fractals with the salvia. everything turns into patterns and repeating patterns and such. and i feel the textures of the patterns in my body, usually mostly on my tongue.

i feel like salvia is going to be a POTENT spiritual enhancement for me, and i'm excited about that. it's taking me places inside myself that are very difficult for me to go otherwise at this point in time. i will probably do it a lot for a while, and then probably only rarely.

i've gotten to a point where i don't want or need psychedelics or mind altering substances (other than lots of weed and the occasional alcohol) in order to grow and find myself or find enjoyment and meaning in my life. however i think it's a fantastic tool for spiritual growth, especially when you've reached a plateau.

but i really can't imagine taking salvia for recreational use and not some spiritual depth. because it's like straight up touching your soul, and finding out whats there.

 

I've done it like 10 times.

It's a pretty shit drug.

Do some DMT instead if you want that kind of experience.

 

I just don't think i want to do any other drugs besides pot again. I just feel like I am getting to old for that stuff, I don't know.
The death experience sounds very scary. I was with someone who did it and had something similar happen. He thought he was going to hell and didn't know whether I was there to help him out of hell, or whether I was a demon charming him into hell.
I don't like feeling slow afterwards. i never get that way with anything else. I hate feeling lethargic, I can;t tell you how much I do.