Is marijuana a sin?

Oh yea.. Heres tyhe thing tho. You wont even SEE Kaneh Bosm in your nkj or your kj. Its been erased and changed to "sweet smellin cane" or "sweet callamus". If ya wannet to read it as it was writen, -the truth. Youd have to get a look at an old testament from a Hebrew book like the one they use. Ya know, the Talamut or the Torra or something. Im not really shure. My big brother usta have an old Bible that was printed from the old origional Hebrew texts and just bout everywhere kj had sweet smellin cane or sweet callamus writen, my brothers old Hebrew derived old testament texts listed Kaneh Bosom. This aint no theory.

 

Well, does hemp have a smell at all? Why would YHWH tell the Hebrews to burn frankincense? It is not for it's anti-inflammitory properties I assume.

Again, with hemp oil, why does it have to have an effect, other than have a smell pleasing to the Lord?

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0230.htm#23 Read this well, in verse 34, it stops talking about Kaneh bosm and the holy anointing oil and begins to speak of the incense that does not] have any in it.

So my question to you would be, does hemp oil smell at all, even just a little bit?

 

No one knows what Kaneh bosm means for sure. It is like Soma in the Hindu Vedas. People now guess what it was, but do not really know.

 

I am taking the stance that it does not have to be or is proved 100% that the holy anointing oil contained the drug cannabis and that it was not burned, as per the directions for the incense in Exodus 30.

I am taking the stance that we do not know as of yet, and the making the jump from "Cannabis was used in holy anointing oil which was reserved for only the priests and the Holy of Holies and if anyone other than a priest put some on himself then he would be an outcast" therefore "Let's smoke some drugs".

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0230.htm#23 Read this link, it says that Kaneh bosm was used in the oil--which was very sacred and not for everyone--and then it says that the burnt incense does not have this Kaneh bosm in it.

 

Although I agree that the bible does not mention masturbation specifically as being a sin, your leap to "then everything not mentioned is okay!" So heroin is a-okay as well. Same with Meth, crack, et cetera?


I never meant in here to decide what is and is not a sin--I was merely expressing reservations about the leap from a possible (maybe likely) mention of cannabis (not necessarily the drug) in Exodus 30 in relation to the holy anointing oil and the "plant[ation] renown" in Ezekiel to the claim that Jesus was likely a pothead and that we should smoke to get close to God.

If I do not need pot to become close to God, does that make me more spiritually tuned

 

Kaneh Bosm is listed in the Hebrew/English dictionary as the Flowering tops of the hemp plant, or Marijuanna. Hemp is what the fiber from these plants is called. Doncha think God knew which parts to use for what? Pluss I think the origional texts we'r sayin that you shouldnt put the oil on the gentiles. No incense for them either. I dont think He was restrictin it for His chozen. Do ya still get the priest to pray for ya? If ya do mabey you should leave the smokin to him. As for me, Il do my own prayin and smokin. My tent will allways be fulla smoke. And my prayers will never end. Back in the day, they wer smokin GREAT CLOUDS OF KANEH BOSM to the LORD! Straight up Herb!

 

Jesus was not a "pothead". Neither was Moses. Not Aron or his brother either. Neither am I. But we all smoke Kaneh Bosm all day long. Ya think it makes us potheads? Is that what ya think it makes us? The Oil is Holey. So is the Incense. So is the Kaneh Bosm.

 

seems pretty clear to me

 

Dude, you have like the coolest outlook on smoking Pot- you sir, are a true prophet.

 

Which Hebrew/English dictionary?

Sorry for my lack of understanding on how pot works. I incorrectly used the word "Hemp", when what I should have said was "hemp oil". Better?

The ext says it shall not be poured on the flesh of any man (I guess except priests); no one should make it (unless you are the right person to...and in that regard, saying one ingredient equals the whole thing is a misuse of God's Word); and you should not put it on any non-Hebrew person.

I will get anyone to pray for me. I guess because I am Catholic that means that I fall under what you would call someone who gets other to pray for him. No, I get priests to offer the sacrifice of mass for me, but I will do my own praying--without drugs.

If you smoke all day (and do not do other things) then yes, you are a pot-head. Just like if you are a little tipsy all day you are an alcoholic. i am not saying you are plastered high off of the pot, but if like you say your "tent is always full of smoke" then you are a pothead. (I will remind you again that Kaneh Bosm was used as a oil, not an incense and inhalant).

 

Is taking marijuana once, in a religious ceremonial make you a pothead? What I noticed in my experience with marijuana is that there are two kinda of experiences that you can undergo from its effects

1) Having fun with friends
2) Feeling more connected to reality/spirituality.

The intention that you use before taking marijuana changes its effects. If you want to have religious experiences from it, then you will. If you use it with the intention of fun, then it'll just be for fun.

I never said that Jesus was a pothead or that he used it often, or that it replaces our connection to God without drugs. What I was saying is that marijuana does something to the person, under the right set and settings, that can have strong spiritual implications and can give a perspective to reality that you normally cannot achieve on your own.

Never said to start smoking 24/7, or that Jesus was. But that it was possible for them to use Cannabis as part of the anointing ritual.

Also, most drugs need to be processed before they can be used, therefore, are man made. With weed, all you need to do is cut the buds off the plant and smoke it. That's it. Nothing can be more natural than this. Considering the nature of the plant, and how it survives almost anywhere in almost every climate and how it is the most successful plant on the planet speaks volumes. God seems to have more respect with God-made things than man-made.

Gotta look into the other comments you have made, but you bring up a good point. Thanks.

Also, the thing with marijuana is that you can still do what you need to do while under its effects. My best friend went to class stoned everyday and received an A- GPA. The question that I wonder about, is what is exactly meant by sobriety? Alcohol is far different than the effects of marijuana. When you're stoned, you KNOW you are stoned and you know what you can and cannot do under its effects. With alcohol, you are unaware of your intoxication and this ends up causing the person to believe that they are in much more control of themselves than they truly are.

 

Kaneh Bosm is bout half the dry ingrediants of the Holey incense. Half Flowering tops, quarter frankinsense and a quarter cinimon. It was half Herb. It was in theyr tents burnin all day. They also anointed themselves with it rite on theyr bodies. The Hebrews usta be the chozen ones. Now all mite enter the Kingdom of God. He's not restrictin me from smokin His Kaneh Bosm. He said to only put it on Hebrews back in the day because they wer the only chozen ones. Now we can all be chozen, Hebrew or gentile. Kaneh Bosm is good for all of those who wish to comune with God. If you use Kaneh Bopsm to comune with God it can only be good for you.

 

Ganja is a gift from God but remember that even a gift can be misused and abused.

 

When I first saw this thread, I thought you asked if marijuana was a chin...but I might still be a little high.

 

haha, well bud usually has a tendency to make people consumed with hunger.

LOL.

 

LOL, good point :cheers2:

 

If god wanted us to get high he would have put natural psychotropic drugs in plants. Oh... wait...

 

Atheist over here, but my take.... It's a naturally occurring substance. Id say its safe to say your in the clear.

 

man im gonna just state a logical point of view on the bud man!

okay

1. no one has ever overdosed on the weed.

ZERO overdose deaths.

2. There is no proof that there is long term permanent brain damage from smokin bud, short term memory like when your high or smokin bud all the time, but when you quit, you get more clear headed, and doin that shit is ABUSE man.

3. also, research has show that thc and other cannabinoids aid in the destruction of cancerous tumors, now how is that bad? makes me wanna smoke everyday to cut the risk of cancer down.

4. people dont get violent with weed, it chills you out.

man weed is not bad! it is a fuckin plant that does good things, so how is it bad?

fuck that, only reason its illegal and people think its bad is cause they're ignorant about it. everyone should smoke one time and get high to see what the fuck it really is.

if there is a god, that god probably put weed here, for a multitude of good reasons.

 

Why would a plant, created by God, be sinful? Nature is nothing less than perfect and whole in its entirety. I'm not Christian (or of any religion), but it doesn't seem logical to me to think that any part of nature would be on this earth for malevolent purposes. Marijuana is a gift given to be respected and used.