She Never Came Down

a friend of mine dosed his girl (with 4-HO-DiPT) and she never came down. she started comming up at 2 hours. and at 4 hours she was freakin out saying she hadn't stopped comming up. by the next day she was incoherent and was sent to the mental ward, they kept asking if she drank jimsonweed tea. she was delerious, talking to walls. well i was jus wondering if anyone else has seen this reaction.... and wondering what to do. when asked what she took she tried to tell em 4-HO-DiPT but was too incoherent, all they caught was "T" and thats why they suggested "jimsonweed tea."

 

That's really sad...

 

what exactly is 4-HO-DiPT?

 

"next time " (HAH!) --->

pin a note to her coat:
'i have ingested 25 milligrams of a synthetic psilocybin analog called 4-hydroxy-diisopropyl-tryptamine hydrochloride; please be gentle with me!'
(for online references, begin with googlesearching: dr alexander shulgin TIHKAL 4ohdipt)

 

yeah whenever you are doing a major trip, write a note of whats in you, when you took it, and how much and put it in yoursock. Or write it on yourself somewhere with a sharpie.

 

hmmm....this is why i tend to stick with the natural stuff......mushrooms and pot

 

well if she had a little vinegar and or lots of water and that didnt help you could probably rule out the trouble being from still having the some drug in her system, you could try giving her more 4-ho-dipt to see if it balenced her out (its possible her brain adjusted to that mental state and got shattered when she came down maybe), if all else fails theres always the option of a vacation (maybe it was a stress related ethnogen triggered psychotic break).

if these dont work then post on the forums and someone wiser than me may be able to help.

 

i cant get a hold of her! they're keepin her in the ward and her mom wont release any info to ME, but she would to my friend that dosed her. he's ignoring me now over some dumb shit, id wish he'd drop it, he needs to know some of this stuff too, since hes the only one who can talk to her parents. FUCK! i wanna help her so much!

 

Shit like that needs to be kept on the DL. Now even more sites will be shut down. You guys should get her to say AMT since it is already illegal. hydroxy is my favorite. God dammit.

 

well you could visit her at the ward as a friend (or lie and say your family if they dont allow friends), you could send in a friend to infiltrate the ward. have em go nuts infront of the place so he gets comitted, then when has done his work in the ward he can say he made tea out of a unknown plant in his yard (giving the description of datura), or that he got very drunk, or maybe you could break her out if you have access to gunpowder and an escape vehicle.

 

Thats some scary stuff man... best of luck, and keep us posted.

 

I'm betting she took, probably a high first dose, and she was on an MAOI, or had some in her system.....maybe a form of anti-depressant...

anyways. I would have given her some valiums, or something like that. try milk (D or whole) that venigar would work if kept down but slower. either way alot to drink.

if nothing there worked within 45mins then taken to hospital. they'd try the same things, but they'd add "induced comatosis" to the end of their list.

 

i still cant contact her or get info on her whereabouts (rehab/ward?). im concerned.

GIVE HER MORE 4-HO? dont think so~
she was "talking" in the ward when none of her friends were they and she had SUCH a mindfuck she almost couldnt remember what she took, she was "mumbling" they said. she wouldnt have the sense to lie and take a lick to keep certain drugs legal, this was her first RC. first dose, but she wasnt on any MAOI's at all.

 

Her BF shouldn't of dosed her like that. And the first one of you that got to visit her should of said it was jimson weed or AMT or something to the Dr. fucks.

 

I have to agree with KissYourKiller on this one, it's because of people like this that it's so hard to find RCs now. "Know your body, Know your substance, Know your source."

In any event, I hope your friend recovers soon.

 

yeah i'm with crackforkids, the otherguy says bullshit as usual. aze is such a bullshiter.

 

There is a (small) possibility that giving her more would be helpful. Though I agree it sounds insane and absurd, and maybe even sadistic, it has been done in the past (a user given more of a drug to un-influence him) successfully. However, it should only be used as a LAST resort, when there are no other options left.

 

umm isnt it obvious that shes just gone crazy, and that its not eh frug ducking her up (since no drug lasts that long unless u had maoi's)

giving her more yould not help since the drug isnt like coke or speed or something, where your case of giving mroe to counter the problems applies

 

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your talking about a withdrawal situation, im talking about a perceptual disorder creating the symptoms of craziness. i believe that her mind adjusted to the trip and didnt readjust when she came off the drug so it resulted in mental breakdown, all you would need to do is give the drug again tell her she is on a drug so her mind can compensate and then wait for it to ware off. time is a factor here though, i believe that if this whole antidrug reaction scenario happened that being exposed to a unregular mental state (and unregular brain chemistry) for an extended period of time could be dangerous and cause permanent or lasting side effects. see withdrawal is mentally manifested physical situation, where as im talking about a physically manifested perseptual situation. i dont believe its her mind that got fucked up but her perception of reality that didnt reset properly after the drug wore off.

or she had a mental breakdown or the drug blew her mind and she couldnt deal with the residual "conciousness expanding effects" in which case readministering the drug may or may not help, but if it helped in this situation then it would be more for facing her fears and learning to understand and except them than for a direct instant cure. if it were me i would want some time to mellow out and if i didnt get better i would want the drug again to go back to the source of the problem and fix it (while this may be bad reasoning with something physically damadging it seems just the thing for that which is mentally damadging because the mind cant be hurt, its essentially formless).

hey thats how it was for me with gonja, it actually used to disturb my psyche and make me trip out alot and scare me (of course i probably shouldnt have started out on the hardcore shit and done so much at once for my first few times i guess). but i faced my "fear" (silly to have been afraid now of course) learned to just accept the way it made me feel and not to fight it and now i enjoy it. your friend may be able to face her fear and slowly piece her mind back togeather (though granted she doesnt sound too capable of doing much of anything at the moment). hope things get better.keep us posted.

 

We had a guy once that was trippin really hard on shrooms and slipped into a bad trip. We gave him pot, didn't hgelp, so we figured hey, lets put him out of his misery, cause he was screaming so much and running around trying to get all of his clothes off. We made a pb sandwich and put ten grams of shrooms in it, and fed it to him. He was out like a busted bulb about 30 minutes later, and when he came to the next day, he was a changed man. He hasn't done any drugs since.