Do you think the USA will fall from it's super power status in your life time?

The USA will not fall from super power status, it will just fade away as a new government, a new society emerges as part of the New World Order. Utilizing star trek like technologies they will force their will onto the people of the world, and in doing so, will further enslave humanity. Or they could possibly use these powers for the good of mankind. Who knows.

 

As far as China being the next supper power, if a single country becomes the next super power China seems the most poised country for the job I think that we will witness the conception of a new type of super power, just as our forefathers saw the evolution of the current idea of a super power we will see the begining of the corporate superpower.

Ding, who thinks Newscorp & China will both have some form of monitering bot come across this particular thread in the next hour?

 

Meant to add: The USA looks like it's headed to wards major reform that will probably bring it to the edge of collapse but will most likely degrade it's status as super power in the process. Hopefully it will still be somewhat strong.

 

Its kind of hard to say what will become of the USA, the will of the people is shifting and losing faith in this system (economy, foreign relations, money, governments, etc) and I haven't figured out where we are shifting towards. This system only exist because we let it exist. If everyone stopped believing in the system, it would fail. Now where this would leave USA, I don't think this land will have that name anymore.

 

this whole thread is stupid!
CONJECTURE! NOTHING BUT CONJECTURE, AND NOTHING MORE!


there are five (5) superpower nations... they are: china, france, russia, the united kingdom, and the united states.
germany and japan could with ease be superpower nations too. with one hell of alot of hard work, india could be a superpower.

as for the debt of the u.s.a. and other nations... nothing new there.
the u.s.a. was in far, far, far worst debt after it gained independence from the u.k.
the u.s.a. is in one hell of a lot better shape, in finance now with it's debt then it ever was after it's independence from the u.k. or it's civil war.
the u.s.a. went into sever consumer debt in the 1920's, and went into the worst economic depression in world history, in the the late 1920's, and that did not end until 1945.

the u.s.a. has been in far, far, far worst shit then it is now. that goes for the other superpower nations as well... they have ALWAYS bounce back, and more then likely will do it again now.

if we do something really, really, really stupid like, killing all life off on plaint earth... then everyone is superfucked but good!

 

There will be a new world order.

 

They do not always bounce back. Power has been traded through the nations repetedly. Unless by bounce back you mean after a couple hundred years or so of other nations holding the title. It's just very had for our modern minds to grasp things changing. We've lived for so long without war on our own soil, we don't think that it will happen, but it can very easily. We've lived for so long with our country being so powerful, but we can easily slide down the ladder. Things are always changing. That's just how things are. You only notice if you've lived through a big change.

 

Probably not in any of our lifetimes, though who becomes 2nd and 3rd could change.

 

the world only got out of the Great Depression because of WWII. If it weren't for that stimulus to global industry, who knows what would have happened. Everyone has been high on the momentum from that war until just a few years ago and now we are getting dragged back to the same hole we only managed to escape from by killing off millions of people. We are poised to be in a much worse position than was experienced during the Great Depression, and I think what will happen next may frighten some of you a little.

 

If I live to be about 90.

 

If a war doesn't come along a pandemic or starvation will trim off the fat. Unless we stave those off until they reach the point of a massive disaster instead of a simple pruning of the human race. Everything needs a little pruning, not just fruit trees.

 

^^ exactly. Right now we are living on unsustainable means and the problems are just starting. Rice and corn prices have risen dramatically due to supply growing faster than the rate that farms are increasing, so demand is becoming increasingly greater than supply. The thing is, if anything major such as pandemic or widespread starvation starts occurring, war will likely follow.

 

why do you list uk and france as superpowers? i always thought it was just china, russia, and usa.

 

True true, maybe we have already crossed the line from pruning to super disaster and we just don't know it yet. Talk about a rock and a hard place.

 

Well right now I'm just trying to enjoy life as mcuh as I can and remember everything because I think sometime down the road I'll look back with fond memories. Not to say that the future won't eventually become a beautiful place, but the times they are changin and this era is a unique one.

I'm just gonna pretend this is heaven until the day I turn on the TV to see the inevitable unfolding.

 

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dollar hedgemony is coming t o an end and WW3 is coming to US soil. I don't give us 5 years

 

i don't know about world war anything. i think the rest of the world, when it wakes up, is just going to embargo international corporatocracy, american included.

as for dollar hedgemony, yes, all things pass eventually. its been predicted and not yet happened too many times before to have even a rough estimate as to when, but yes, it is utterly bound, eventually to happen.

one of the things that has prompted america's rash of starting irrational wars has been a vain attempt to prevent a move to the euro as the international currency standard.

even that is almost moot as i see the day coming when currency in any form will no longer be the standard of anything, having never been a rational one to begin with.

i don't believe war on the kind of all out scale that america isn't starting controlling and choosing itself coming home to roost, but a lot of other things just as profoundly changing america, the planet, and america's roll in it.

i really think the environment will continue to be and even increase as being, a much bigger factor then war or wars.

famine and disease resaulting from global climate shift and excessive human population.

its never too late to wake up and stop relying on combustion that we so completely don't need to be relying on. and the same goes for reducing human fertility.

well some interesting things are going to happen in the lives of people much younger then myself that i won't likely live to see but most of the rest of you probably will.

 

That presumes that we still are "the greatest". We are not, I believe that the USA has already fallen we just have not hit the ground yet.

 

Never happen. Americans like their freedom too much and in order to protect our freedom, we need to be powerful. Simple as that. We will never forget Pearl Harbor.

 

No one is stupid enough to believe that getting in an internationally and, eventually unanimously hated war in a volatile region would increase the value of the dollar in relation to the euro.

Basic economy would show quite the opposite on paper, and as we see now, in practice.

Wars only tend to boost the economy if the decisive country unifies its citizens' towards the enemy. Not quite the case in Iraq.

Our reasons for invading are a mystery to me, but its fairly obvious something strange is happening behind the curtains that may show its face anytime now.