Do all psychedelics give you ego loss?

Or do only some? I know certain ones such as DPT, 5 meo dmt, and DMT all give you extreme ego loss, but does that also refer to mushrooms and lsd? Even from taking eighths of mushrooms multiple times it seemed like I didn't get ego loss to much, if I even really understand what it is?

Could someone kindly take their time and give a full explanation as to what 'ego loss' exactly is? Thanks alot

 

If you take a higher dose of shrooms, you will experience ego-loss/death.

Many people say that it's impossible to experience complete ego-death on 2ce, but I've experienced it a few times with high doses. My physical self completely dissolved and I became pure electric energy.

I don't think ALL psychedelics have to potential to cause ego-death, but I'm sure it's possible with MOST psychedelics, depending on dosage.

 

You will KNOW what ego loss is when you experience it. I have had it on LSD, mushrooms, DPT, DMT, DOx?, salvia, and ALMOST on LSA.

 

could you describe an ego death i would like to hear what its like

 

What would be a more detailed explanation of ego death though?

 

When I was asking the same question as you I stumbled upon this site: http://www.egodeath.com/

There is also a thorough explanation in Leary's The Psychedelic Experience. It is what he refers to as the First Bardo.

I think it's one of those things you can't understand until you experience it though. I still haven't.

 

I would consider it to be a lot like what I expect actual death to be like. You cross over into a different plane of existence and your physical self ceases to exist, completely.

 

Your physical self might cease to exist on DPT, DMT, Ketamine etc. but on mushrooms and lsd your still in your body though. I have an idea what ego loss is and I'm quite sure I did experience a little bit of it when I did a 3rd plateau DXM trip, but I am still looking forward to full blown ego loss. DPT, here I come

 

Main Entry:
ego
Pronunciation:
\ˈē-(ˌ)gō also ˈe-\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural egos
Etymology:
New Latin, from Latin, I — more at i
Date:
1789
1: the self especially as contrasted with another self or the world
2 a: egotism 2 b: self-esteem 1
3: the one of the three divisions of the psyche in psychoanalytic theory that serves as the organized conscious mediator between the person and reality especially by functioning both in the perception of and adaptation to reality — compare id, superego


Main Entry:
death
Pronunciation:
\ˈdeth\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English deeth, from Old English dēath; akin to Old Norse dauthi death, deyja to die — more at die
Date:
before 12th century
1 a: a permanent cessation of all vital functions : the end of life — compare brain death b: an instance of dying <a disease causing many deaths>
2 a: the cause or occasion of loss of life <drinking was the death of him> b: a cause of ruin <the slander that was death to my character — Wilkie Collins>
3capitalized : the destroyer of life represented usually as a skeleton with a scythe
4: the state of being dead
5 a: the passing or destruction of something inanimate <the death of vaudeville> b: extinction
6: civil death
7: slaughter
8Christian Science : the lie of life in matter : that which is unreal and untrue



Main Entry:
loss
Pronunciation:
\ˈlȯs\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English los, probably back-formation from lost, past participle of losen to lose
Date:
13th century
1: destruction, ruin
2 a: the act of losing possession : deprivation<loss of sight> b: the harm or privation resulting from loss or separation c: an instance of losing
3: a person or thing or an amount that is lost: as aplural : killed, wounded, or captured soldiers b: the power diminution of a circuit or circuit element corresponding to conversion of electrical energy into heat by resistance
4 a: failure to gain, win, obtain, or utilize b: an amount by which the cost of something exceeds its selling price
5: decrease in amount, magnitude, or degree
6: the amount of an insured's financial detriment by death or damage that the insurer is liable for
— at a loss
1: uncertain as to how to proceed <was at a loss to explain the discrepancy>
2: unable to produce what is needed <at a loss for words>
— for a loss : into a state of distress <events had thrown him for a loss>

 

I have had ego loss before a few times. Its not 'fun' at all. Interesting to say the least. You don't feel like you actually die. You don't have to have an out of body experience. It can be pretty simple and yes, LSD DOES cause ego death. Thats where the phrase came from.

Look at the definition of ego. Its how you view yourself and how you interact with outside stimulus. There are 3 parts to your mental state and person, ID, ego, and superego. If you really want to learn in depth stuff about it, take psychology. I did and got a 99.9% in it, yayy... I didn't experience 'ego death/ego loss' at all on ***. I think that people are using it on every drug experience now-a-days. It breaks you down as a person and lets you see how things are without how you view it. Kinda hard to explain.

 

Its easy to get on LSD and mushrooms. You dont need to be "out of body" for ego death to occur.

 

even mdma causes ego loss. it's simply your consciousness losing grip on its idea of who you are. You start to model yourself as you truly are, that thing which is being in the eternal now, rather than whatever funny boxes your mind places you in.

ego death is this taken to its maximum, you lose grip wholly of you are, even as a human being, even as a conscious entity, even as a discrete entity.

i have experienced this on lsd, psilocybin mushrooms, dpt, mdma . . . i don't think what ketamine causes has anything to do with the ego though. ketamine has it's own neat little trick, i don't know, i'd have to think about it a long time, but my gut tells me what ketamine does is different and ultimately subpar.

 

The first time I did DPT, I didnt experience full ego death either. All the other times though, thats another story.

 

there's a pretty extensive thread about ego death in the psychedelic drug forum at bluelight.

i'm not sure if i've experienced it or not. so i guess i haven't. but i kinda think i have. on ~20mg of 2ce with several bong hits during or close to the peak...i was getting "visions" of being a cold homeless person, and abused wife, a starving child. i felt like i existed as all of this at once. it's the one time i DEFINITELY felt that feeling of "oneness"
tapping into the "stream of life"

that was the same trip where i thought i wasn't gonna come back to reality

 

This is a perfect example of what a lot of people think ego death is. That is not ego death to me. That is just psychedelic bliss to me.

 

I call that ego distortion. With ego death the knowledge that a "self" exists completely goes away. Not just your self but self in general.

 

A lot of it depends on set/setting too. For example, it is much more likely to experience ego loss/ego death while lying on your back with your eyes closed in a pitch-black room with no external influence, as opposed to being in a well-lit room full of distractions. At the same time, it also depends on dosage, as well as your willingness to let go of everything and allow the trip take you where it wants to take you.

 

That reminds me. Imagine tripping in an isolation chamber... DPT would be fucking incredible in one of those.

 

Yeah that shit would be crazy. Imagine being in a sensory deprivation tank on 1,500ug of LSD after having been awake for 4 days. haha

 

What is that? I think were talking about the same thing. Who did that though?