New Strain

Discussion in 'Cannabis Breeding and Seed Strains' started by Fiend4Green, Jun 9, 2009.

  1. Fiend4Green

    Fiend4Green Member

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    So can you just make a new strain by growing your own "stuff" and name it whatever? or does it involve more work.
    I was thinking of taking the Organge Crush strain and combining it with mabey a Sour Diesel
     
  2. Rocklobster

    Rocklobster Senior Member

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    The short answers is no coz its alot of growing with many plants over many years to get a stable strain by selective breeding. The long answer is far too long to post lol. If you do cross your plants ya will get what known as an f1 very sort after if you wanna clone coz they grow really fast (f1 vigor). The bad news is ya get a rite mix of plants due to the mix of different genes and not idea if ya wanna grow a forest of plants or are expecting a stable yield or taste across your plants.
     
  3. Rocklobster

    Rocklobster Senior Member

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    Another factor is some strains dont cross well due to there gene pool and the habit of genes to miss a few generations only to surfaces down the line just like in humans whiles other genes only appear when combined with another types of gene some of newly appearing genes could be good and welcome but equally some could not be so desirable in you plants.
     
  4. klondike_bar

    klondike_bar Senior Member

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    shortest answer: yes
    medium answer: no

    long answer: breeding is easy, you simply leave one male in the growroom (or a seperate room), and ensure that a small amount of pollen is transferred to the pistils of the selected female. Howver, great strains require many years of breeding trial and error,and it can be difficult to capture/keep certain genetic traits.I have personally crossed a pure sativa called the Sacra Fresca with an autoflowering lowryder (or unknown cross of such), to create a strain called MAGNUM.

    ive grown about 20 of these seeds in the last year and a bit, with generally good results. one outdoor crop (planted too late), turned only a few grams per plant, but was a deep shade of purple. Indoors, the plants lacked a uniform growth, with some requireing training to ensure a similar height of the plants.
     
  5. Rocklobster

    Rocklobster Senior Member

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    Hey k-bar thats a bit cheeky calling your plants a strain it did not breed true copies of its parents plants coz it cant its just a cross even if you were to ignor yield leaf and flower set and just bred say the tallest bothers and sisters ya will end up with mostly tall plants and an f2 (less vigous) now if you breed the tallest again from ya f2 ya get more percentage of tall plants again an f3 now by the time you get to say f10 there all be tall coz its bred true copies. Now the downside is the move you travel down the F line the less vigor the plants become so you will need to back breed with distance family members or other strains that show the properties you are breeding for to maintain vigor and over all health of the plants. In many ways breeding crosses and making a new strain is easier then actually maintaining a strain.
    Done seeds a few times now and thats my take on how it works lol.
     
  6. Naturalhi

    Naturalhi Great hairy ape

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    Another reason NOT to do this is, if everybody did it we'd soon have just one strain they'd all get mixed together and there wouldn't be any variety!

    Every time I go to the dispensary it seems that there are several strains I've never heard of before! The strain that helps with the pain isn't available anymore and I'm left to find another.....!

    It's not nice to mess with mother nature!

    Sorry for the rant, but this subject has been bugging me for years!>P
     
  7. klondike_bar

    klondike_bar Senior Member

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    ^there are still many "pure" strains, but crossing has produced many wonderful strains.

    as for calling my seeds a strain, you are right to say thats a stretch. however, due to the numerous grows ive had with them, it is easy for me to call it my own "strain". however, it displays a relatively broad set of phenotypes, and is definitely not "identical" enough to be considered more then a "mutt"
     
  8. Rocklobster

    Rocklobster Senior Member

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    Its an interesting subject for sure and there's nothing quite like breeding your own and seeing the interplay between the mother and the fathers genes at work but would not call them ''mutt's'' there more like proto types of what could be possible to capture and to breed stable enough to breed true.
    Yep mixing up the gene pool till we're left with one strain is bad bad news but equally breeding out genes just coz they dont get us high or yield larger then the normal harvests whiles we wipe the true wild strains off the face of the earth is even more bad news coz once there gone you cant get them back again and couple that to fact that most mj we buy today would not last more then a handful of generation in the wild then things really are not look good for the future of mj.
     

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