In terms of subjective effects like euphoria, tactile enhancement, etc, what RC is most similar to MDMA? im particularly after euphoria.
For empathogenic effects and tactile feelings I would say Bk-MDMA or Methylone. Methylone in combination of Butylone or probably other more classical stimulants is very similar to MDMA to me, but not quite as intense in reasonable dosages. I have started a couple of threads about them recently. Mephedrone is supposed to be very euphoric, but it is more of a classical stimulant than MDMA-like.
Methylone, or properly 3,4-methylenedioxymethcathinone, is a beta-ketone analogue of MDMA. Also known as bk-MDMA, M1, or MDMCat, the abbreviation MDMC is not used as this designation was already given to another chemical by Alexander Shulgin. Methylone is the most similar structurally. Significantly so. That more than likely is your best bet. It is also what I have read is closest. Meph rocks. But yeah, meph is like meth with a hint of mdma.
defiantly methylone... you have to do quite a lot to feel like you actually feel like you're rolling, but it's very similar...aside from the shorter duration which calls for somewhat perpetual re-dosing... i find mephedrone to be mildly psychedellic (a fat line always makes me see fractals), and THE most powerful empathogen i've ever encountered...but i really see no similarity in it's effects to that of meth...
Yeah im leaning towards mephedrone, methylone sounds too weak compared to MDMA. I want awesome euphoria, and tactile enhancement mostly and so far people say meph is even better than mdma whereas methylone is like a weak mdma. I dont care about how mdma makes you 'unstimulated', the calmness has nothing at all to do with the high in my opinion, I rather enjoy more stimulating E pills. so mephedrone seems to be down my ally. and if youve never done mdma you cant really say what is similar to it in effects, just because methylone is structurally similar doesnt mean its effects are most similar, just look at DPT and DiPT, structurally their almost identical, but the effects are VASTLY different.
I've tried methylone and mephedrone recently. i think methylone is probably better for a party at a mate's house, a bit more chilled, whereas mephedrone is definately more stimulating (and it's the cheaper of the 2 over here in the UK).
out of my experience, i would say 2c-e by far. 2c-e made me feel like i was on ecstasy (mdma) times like 5. it was phenomenal, although i hear that 2c-b is even MORE like MDMA.
ive never done bk-mdma so i couldnt really say. however i have done meph and liked it but it got old fast and seems really nuerotoxic but you cant really go by how it feels. 2c's are fun but i would say meph is closer to mdma
i dont know man, when I did 2c-e, it was 2 days after i did 2c-i so maybe that has to do with it a little... but when i did it i was wearing really comfortable microfiber pajama pants and i felt like i was on x times 5 plus lsd
No, It's one of the most potent (requiring less mg for same effectiveness) and one of the most visual (besides some of the 2-c-t's). It also has more of a "mind fuck" than many of the 2c's. This is part from my experience and part from the general consesus that I have read.
i think he meant neutral as regards to emotionally but it makes me pretty damn happy and body feel great i've never done mdma, so can't compare but just running water over my hand feels amazing
wen i eat 2c-e i get these amazing flushes over my skin. its quite the feeling. not something i would really equate to rolling but great nonetheless. i feel like a good rail of meph right before the peak would be wonderful tho!
But the effects of methylone and mdma are not VASTLY different, they are very similar in their effects. more so than mdma and mephedrone. so what are you saying that for his example was completely appropriate. anyway. mephedrone is more of an intense dopamine rush than a massive serotonin release. feels like a cross between coke and mdma IMO. im not into uppers really so i didnt enjoy mephedrone but all of my friends who like coke who i gave it to absolutely loved it.
But how come there are a handful of reports claiming mephedrone is like the next mdma just speedy, ive consistently read methylone was similar to mdma just much much weaker. im looking for something with similar intensity, especially in euphoria and lots of mephedrone reports seem to have a lot of intense euphoria.
If methylone and mdma fucked they would have a kid called G. If G and meth fucked they would have mephedrone. That has to be the best explanation I can think of. Meph is way cheaper and is funner, though there are reports of it cutting off circulation to the limbs...
me too brother. serotonin > dopamine! but you've never done mdma? that is the pinnacle of serotonergic drugs. actually DPT has a very serotonergic feel to it, and I even get noticeably depressed for a day or two after doing it. Good stuff
nope i've never done mdma, or dpt. i'm more likely to do dpt, since i can find that one. mdma i never really wanted that bad, and the fact that it's usually cut/i don't know a good hookup turns me off of it. and after i made that statement i was reading around and realized that LSD is a mixture of seratonergic and dopaminergic, so i guess i might prefer that. i'm thinking that the 2c series is only or mainly seratonergic. i think.