Is it OK to kill certain animals?

There is a difference in killing for sport and killing for survival. I don't believe in killing for sport, but I do think survival is a natural instinct - except in Peta followers. I think hypocrisy is their only instinct.

Peta's national headquarters is about a 15 minute drive from my house - the beautiful concrete and glass building built on approximately 3 or 4 acres of prime Chesapeake Bay waterfront property - previously marshland and natural habitat for countless water life, and Peta destroyed how many marshland habitats to build that pretty building on the bay?

Oh...they also admitted (on video) to killing 95% of the animals in its care.

 

Another sad example of how those who choose not to advocate violence have now all been pigeonholed into the "PETA nutters" catagory. I suppose its easier that way

Ive never actually met a veg/vegan/animal rights activist that actually liked PETA in the slightest

As for the question at hand, personally yeah I kill insects. I probably kill thousands of em like everyone does, with all this plant eating, fly swatting and walking around al over ants. Thats unfortunately unavoidable, and I think anyone with a few brain cells can tell the difference between a pig and a flea. As a herbivore I must kill insects in order to eat. I wouldnt go out of my way to kill these creatures on a large scale or make a point of it, but its just going to happen

For example I hate spiders with a passion, but I dont kill them, I let them out. They do me no harm and dont need to be killed, its my fault I have a problem with em. However if I had headlice Id kill them for my own wellbeing, or if there were dead flies on my lettuce I wouldnt cry about it. See?

We can only do what we can, and suggesting we should all be protesting about ant killer and fly sprays is a bit absurd, especially considering some of the bigger issues at hand

 

Also in terms of protest, have you not heard of "one thing at a time"? Surely you know full well this kind of talk would just be ridiculed and lok bad for the entire animal rights movement even if someone did actually want to protest it. If some people still dont care about abuse of cows, theyre hardly going to be weeping about the flies now are they

 

I personally don't believe in killing any animals or insects if possible. If people can live without killing animals and live successfully then I don't think they should ....so killing insects would be a no no, the only exception would be if it was to protect people from dying from malaria in poorer countries. Its not nice to think we have to do that but these people have no access to medical care so...

Ugh I really hate the fact that they test on animals for scientific/medical reasons though...I mean there has to be another way to find cures for human illnesses other than to force animals to suffer...

 

what do vegetarians feed their dog

 

I believe the killing of all animals is wrong. And of course the destroying of their habitat is wrong, too.
And no, I'm not a PETA freak.

 

Kill em all!!!!

 

That's a good question.

 

PETA is just wacked think what you want and dont worry about PETA kill all the stinking bugs you want

 

There are perfectly reasonable middle positions between the over-the-top extremism of PETA, on the one hand, and the trigger-happy idiots who slaughter animals just to satisfy some kind of neurotic bloodlust, on the other.

The most fundamental right that any creature on this planet has is simply to be left alone. However, in most cases, for animals (including humans) to live, something else has to die. Furthermore, creatures also have a right to defend themselves, either from being eaten or being infected with diseases and whatnot.

Taken together, that means that I believe I'm within my "moral rights" to kill a rattlesnake that threatens me, just as any other creature would to defend itself, but not to go out into the desert and indiscriminately hunt them down and slaughter them for no reason.

I'm within my "moral rights" to eat a steak, but not if it means cattle have to be subjected to horrible, inhumane conditions in feedlots, which they are.

I think it's ironic that anyone who advocates a reasonable approach to the problem of animal cruelty is immediately and shrilly accused of being in league with PETA, usually followed by some comment to the effect that "goldurn it, them PETA people ain't gonna stop ME from shootin' up critters", or something equally absurd.

Like most fringe political groups, the actual effect of PETA is far less than their press coverage would indicate. In my opinion, they don't really accomplish much anyway, except pandering to the fears of gun-totin' rednecks.

At the same time, we do not have the right to slaughter innocent creatures just for the hell of it.

 

At my age, you learn to pick your fights. I know I'm not going to get anywhere protesting insect killing. There are so many other more important fights.

Altho I've been a vegetarian for 34 years and I secretly wish everyone was, I try not to be an asshole. I have never in my life asked anyone to stop eating meat.

When my three-year-old daughter saw my wife preparing a fish, she asked, "Is it dead?" In the ensuing conversation, she realized that meat comes from killing animals and became a vegetarian immediately without any influence from us. Kids understand. I'm proud of her and I think it's wrong that so many parents (at least non-farm parents) keep the source of meat pretty much a secret from their kids. I truly believe that if more kids knew, there would be a lot more vegetarians.

I believe that killing is to be avoided. All killing. I think the only reasons that are justifiable are self-defense and survival. I think it's wrong to hunt if there's an alternate source of food, like a supermarket.

When I find a spider in the house, I carefully move it outside. When I walk across a field of grass, I am aware that my feet are killing insects. It really can't be helped. But I am aware of my actions, and silently renew my vow to avoid killing.

 

I have a cat and I feed it meat. If there was a healthy vegetarian diet for cats, I would switch, but I don't believe there is.

 

I feed my plants burgers

 

I think hunting on your own is okay, as long as you use everything, and give the animals a fair chance. dont chase after them with three dogs or let your pals with guns chase em to you.
Furthermore factory farming is WRONG. Organics is better.
Some people just need to eat meat, just like other animals. some handle fine on veg diet. it differs.
I've found that when i dont eat meat i dont feel as well fed as I should, but I grow nauseous when eating what most normal people eat for meat (like a big piece of meatloafm, that really upsets my stomach)
but anyhoo, killing animals should be done in a "correcter"way then it it done now.
For example, if you have your own animals for food, the slaughter them when they're old. not when just matured.. I have much more to say but its late so im going to bed

 

I'm not a PETA fanatic, at all. I am a strict vegetarian and fully support animal rights though. I don't think it is okay to kill any animal. Who are we to take the LIFE of a living breathing animal when it is so unnecessary? In a case of someone starving, and there is no other option, then survival of the fittest, but unless it is life or death, it is wrong in my opinion. There is no difference between a cow and your dog. A lot of vegetarians actually don't kill bugs either. Personally, I try to not kill bugs either but I do sometimes. One thing though, is that insects do not have nervous systems and etc. like animals do. We forget, we are animals too, we are just a higher species who abuses the privilege. If aliens exist and ever come to earth, I really hope they are more merciful on us then we are to the species below us. I've been vegetarian for 1 1/2 years now and it was the best decision I have ever made, and probably ever will. Meat consumption harms your health, the earth and supports the needless torture and suffering of innocent animals.

 

Not even gonna touch that.

The only insects I kill are those that are poisonous and pose an immediate threat to myself or my pets. If possible I will remove them and place them outside... Sometimes I'm just flat out too scared to though. Some of those fuckers just look mean.

 

I dont kill bugs, exept for mosquitos trying to suck my blood, or tics, because they can be dangerous.
When I see an animal, or even a bug is hurt, I try to help it get back on its feet. A while ago I helped a bumblebee who knocked into the windowglass of a train. I sat next to it so that nobody would accidentaly step on it and kept it safe untill it had rested enough to continue its course

 

We are animals, yes?

Since we are animals, we are subject to the same laws of nature as they are. Humans are omnivorous for a reason. We've evolved to be able to eat meat and plants for a reason. We need animal protein. Simple as that. Supplementary vitamins can help, but aren't the optimal way to consume the proteins. You can point out all the other options instead of meat you want, but animal protein is an essential.

There is no evidence that the simple action of consuming meat harms your health. Eating undercooked meat can lead to parasitic infection, yes, and eating overcooked meat (a large amount throughout a lifetime) can lead to some cancers. But the act of eating meat in itself does not harm the Earth or yourself.

I'm a vegetarian* as well. I'm not criticizing the lifestyle, I'm criticizing the reason. We're not gods. We're not above nature. Therefore, to say we should stop eating animals on the basis that it's cruel is ignorant, arrogant and frankly, just silly.

Watch a few videos of a pride of lions hunt, or a cheetah chase down an antelope, or a pod of killer whales hunt a seal. It's brutal.

That's nature. That's how it goes.

Yes, unnecessary suffering on the part of animals should be avoided. Unfortunately, it is necessary for people to eat animals.

Oh, and I'd also like to throw this out there. Organics are awesome. Problem is, with the population of the Earth the way it is, if every farm on the planet went organic, we'd only be able to feed 2/3 of the human population. Just something to chew on.

*I felt the need to defend my vegetarianism. I'm using it as an a) last ditch way of keeping my weight down and b) as a way of proving to myself that I can make a prolonged commitment to something.

 

Hey but wait a minute, are you saying that there shouldnt be something done about factory farming? I mean I agree with you that there are too many people, but have you seen how MANY meat they eat? You dont NEED that much meat, because yes it has been proven that too much meat can be harmfull to your health! that is actually true, but too little can also be harmfull dependant on your body.
People that eat a whole steak a day are just eating too much in my opinion. Not trying to be a jerk honestly, thats just how I feel. I agree that nature is nature, and its not a sin to eat meat, but be respectful, after all we are human and so we have a further evolved consciousness, and so I think we should not be handling our cattle as if they were disposable products. Theyre living things.
Ive never seen a lion eat more then he needs either, a lion can walk amongst a herd of antilopes without the antilopes being scared, because they only grab one when hungry. the antilopes know this.
thats all i have to say for now

 

I agree wholeheartedly. Animals should be respected but not personified.

Yes, something should be done to improve conditions of animals being factory farmed, but overall, factory farming is an effective and, if done correctly, humane way of farming. However, I do think that alternative ways of farming should be sought out. For example, recently I heard of a way of farming crabs that is efficient, cost-effective and humane-- orbital crab farms. Apparently, crabs thrive in orbital conditions, which would be a much better alternative to crab fishing. But for now, factory farming is the best we have for most types of animals we use for meat. Instead of saying that the factory farms should be closed, we should research and offer alternatives.

And yes, eating too much meat is harmful, but that's true of anything. If you drink 16 liters of water in a short period of time, your stomach will rupture. Too much vitamin C in one sitting can kill you. That's been shown time and time again. And yes, I agree with you, moderation is the key.