if i was gay that comment would not bother me... i am not gay and that comment does not bother me. Using gay as some sort of insult is realy not giving me the level of insult i deserve.
Thanks for the replies everyone. Definitely an overall more idealistic and romantic crowd here than most other message boards or "real life" friends. That's a good thing.
Why do so many of you say foreplay is better than sex? In my experience, she moans and what not during foreplay but has explosive moans and body movements during sex. Well sometimes her legs would start twitching and shaking while I was going down on her, so who knows. Why is it better?
hahah yeah... Id just rather have foreplay then sex sometimes..well majority of the time but dont get me wrong sex is good, but foreplay is ruler of all
Nailfog get out of my thread with your childish bullshit. Maybe you should go work out the problems you are having with your sexuality, rather than make stupid fucking comments in thread after thread.
I met someone really special and she was uncomfortable about sex before marriage. So we waited. But, we were both in our mid-20's so we didn't wait long. About four months from first meeting. I was sexually experienced, she was a virgin. Sex was good and sex was problematical. Good because I could teach her and she immediately took the role of willing student because of my experience. Good - yes our honeymoon was great! Problematical because I was doing too much work and she was too passive. I have encouraged her to rely less on me and to to go with how she feels. I love her dearly from the time we met, and the active role I play in our sex is small price to pay for the chance to share my life with someone who is so perfect in so many ways. I don't think sex a few times before we married would have made any difference. Our engagement was extremely short, and I doubt if I could have waited if it were any longer than four months. Either we would have had sex or else I would have wandered. Which would have been a shame. So, if a relationship doesn't make it to marriage because of lack of sex, it could be tragic... Love means that you really do want to make love with that person... It is human nature and the urge to love in all ways. Mark
I loved that... I always love reading your posts on love and sex in fact. they're very full of hope for me... anyway, to continue the discussion! i could wait i think it would be incredibly romantic to have sex for the first time on our honeymoon and yes, foreplay works. in fact, i have little interest lately in actual sex... just too intimate for it to be thrown casually around. and if i was with somebody who wanted to make it even MORE intimate i.e. waiting till marriage, i would definitely up for that. I'm finding out more and more how hopelessly romantic, yet incredibly horny i am... so some sort of physical touch has to be used i think. (of course masturbation works too) hmm... i guess overall i would have to wait and see: be in that situation, before i could honestly answer the question.
Thanks for the response tigerlily. Good stuff. Yes, I know what you mean about a romantic but also horny. And it only gets worse when you are dating someone. When I have a girlfriend, it's like there is a constant flow of blood to my junk haha. Permanent semi...
I think different then most american. I must admit that being french the idea of not having sex before marriage was way foreign to me and the first time I heard that in 1996 in Wisconsin I swear I thought they people were fucking with me. I thought it was a joke and never really questionned it. Since hten I lived in Georgia which is way conservative. In a way I felt that the people I went to college with had the same views on life as my grand ma. I dont know if you could picture your talking to a 20 year old person with your Grand Mother's view on things. But honnestly that's how I felt. Personally I dont plan on having sex at one point or an other in the relationship. Why would I? Certain things just need to take their toll naturally. I can feel close to a person after knowing the person for one day, and another I can see her and hang out with her all day everyday and always feel like I know nothing about the person. As far as sex before marriage... I will never say never but ideally I will not marry a girl I did not have sex with before marriage. You want to know why? Basically for me the religious aspect of marraige has to be striken out... I mean there are too many firm believer in Jesus who divorce everyday to help me understand that you need to take certain steps to make sure it's going to work before you jump the gun. So I plan on having sex many times before I marry the woman. I dont find it particularly sweeter to marry a girl who is a virgin au contraire. I like girls who know and like sex, and that can actually teach me something. Just a personal preference. Plus why would I want a virgin girl when I had sex plenty of times with plenty of girls that I didnt all love even. I had fun so should she... why the hell not as long as she is safe. Just because a lot of guys talk to you sweet to get into your pants that doesnt mean that a guy who cares about you will dump you because you put out too soon. I think you need to find the reasons why certain relationships dont work elsewhere. I guess that's all I had to say about that. Peace Greg
kissMeImPolish - point well taken. I also believe in just letting things happen. It's not good to rush into it, but during a moment of intimacy and passion, you should just let go. But in order to have passion I think you have to know the person pretty well and care deeply for them. I have no problems with sex early on, it just has to be meaningful.