Why don't totalitarian communist states have insurgencies?

Maybe they don't know what their missing?

 

Hungary
Checkoslovakia
both misspelt, both had violent uprisings that were crushed.

Its not only right wing dictatorships that inspire violent opposition.

Oh yes, Cambodia.

 

Those weren't sustained uprising though, nor Guerrilla really, those were mass people in the streets opposition

 

So we're only speaking about insurgencies that are/have been sustained until the opposition overthrows the powers that be?

Wouldn't that be considered more of a Revolution?

 

I don't think this counts, this isn't really an insurgency in North Korea. People stealing and trying to escape the country, smuggling etc - this is not a resistance movement

I'm talking about insurgencies IN communist countries, not by communists.

Russia is not a communist country. These insurgencies started after 1991.

I don't mean they have to win. I just mean sustained armed resistance.

 

I think those of the right wing persuasion simply do not have the intestinal fortitude for revolution.

 

Tell that to Franco

 

I am sure Hiptastic has a really good reason why he does not count.

 

Hiptastic always has a reason for everything...




Why do you need his reasons to apply to you?

 

What does he have to do with an insurgency against a communist government?

 

How about the Ukrainian UPA?

They used to fight the Nazis and the Russians.

 

They would count but they existed before the Soviets were there and were gradually wiped out once WWII was over. So its more proof that the totalitarian left is good at extinguishing opposition.

Good example though, I'd never heard of them.

 

Thank you.

My roommate's great Aunt was an UPA spy who was caught and beaten by the Russians.

But they weren't exactly wiped out. I mean, the revolutionary movement and push towards a sovereign nation of Ukraine was envisioned by the people through the effects and millions of deaths during WWII.

The Ukraine underwent a democratic orange revolution, largely because of the UPA initial resistance to being occupied.

 

I think Poland's "Solidarity Movement" is the closest example I can think of, but I guess that doesn't really count as an insurgency.

 

Or is it that the right only likes to publize what works to their benefit. Left wing totalitarian what exactly is that...not sure that was covered while I was in school. Letting the rich stay rich by not paying their fair share to promote the social good in a society.

Hey let's not tax their inheritance, let's not tax their capital gains, let's not even be sure what level of profit they are gaining, but lets tax the workers and the little people to death, and let's tell them what they can imbibe, what their kids can do and force them to buy insurance to protect them from loss even though your corporations have no intention of paying anything, and when that market collapses let's bail the market out!

Not those that paid into it hell their claims are frivolous. I guess that's the right's message. But those of us losing our homes and trying to feed our kids are the entitled elite? While you're at it raise the pice of gas so we all pay more to get back and forth to work.

The only ones I see inspiring violence are the right that are afraid they may have to pay their fair share. May have to give up that new car?

The left don't walk into churches or museums and shoot innocent people.

 

I love you gardener.

 

No but if you look at the amount of civil wars/insurgencies going on most are left wing, the right is better at terrorism, the left is better at straight up war.

 

It would better if we just all let the rich fight their own wars.

 

It is my view that in the age of persuasion both the right and the left can equally be duped by whatever amount of propaganda they are being exposed to. Just look how many people supported the Iraqi war.

I think the point of this thread, is how come Communists states do not have an organized rebel left strong enough to stand up to the tyrannical and totalitarian regimes of a Communist government. Kind of self defeating question, because usually there isn't a left leaning organized body with the means to take on the police, the army, etc. unless they are funded by an outside source.

The FARC in Colombia would be an example of rebel insurgency. Los Mariposas in the Dominican Republic during the dictatorship of Rafael Trujillo kick-started a rebel revolution. (Only to have the CIA install a successor dictatorship in the name of "democracy").

Plenty of insurgencies of the Left and of Communist leanings - it's just that apart from bloodshed and tear gas, they're isn't always many people left standing to find the regime that keeps them down.

 

Didn't Reagan finance all kind of right wing terrorist groups in South America during the 80's ? In fact wasn't this the Contra side of the Iran/Contra Scandal ?