I was hesitating on trying this chem as I've heard many negative things about the side effects of intranasal ROA. I have sinus problems already. I managed to get 100mg up there before not being able to inhale another thing if my life depended on it. I had a pretty amazing experience and I see great hope for this chem, but the breathing issues/complete stuffiness and sinus pouring put a damper on the experience. I must try a different ROA. I'm considered IM and Rectal. I've heard really good things about IM, but the only needles I have access to are too big. I've heard mixed reviews about Rectal Admin but will prob give this a shot next if I don't find the proper needle.
Yeah dude, I see your point. It looks like I'll be able to get access to a needle possibly soon so if I do I'll just do an IM dose equivilant to 200 nasally (erowid has the charts on it, but I sometimes doubt their accuracy). Pr0ne, what would you say an equivilant dose to 200 mg nasally would be to IM?
Right now I'm looking at trying Syrian Rue + Plugging DPT. That should be interesting, haha. I know what you mean with that the snorting RoA sucks. Glad you had a semi-successful experience though
prone: I'll try my best to come up with some sort of report after work and school. Needless to say I wasn't taking notes, etc. like previous reports. CanSoul: I've read conflicting reports on needing the syrian rue with rectal admin. I'm sure that it would make it more active, but would the DPT not absorb into your bloodstream through your colon similarly to insuffulation and not get eaten up by MAO in your stomach?
I guess an MAOI wouldn't be as necessary as when taken orally, but from what I've heard, rectal administration of DPT isn't too active just by itself. However I did read a report on Erowid of someone mixing DPT Rectally+ Rue, and it worked. I may be trying this tonight, Rue + plugging 100mg of DPT. :cheers2:
I posted this in another thread, but I'll re-write it here: Syrian Rue does not have the same MAOI restrictions that need to be applied as other MAOI's. Syrian Rue inhibits MAOI-A, whereas the ones you need to be careful of are the ones that inhibit MAOI-B; basically Syrian Rue is a reversible MAOI. I don't have the link on me now (I'll find it if anyone wants) but there was a researcher who wanted prove this, so he took Syrian Rue, and then drank beer, wine, I belive ate aged cheese as well (which are all on the dieting rules for MAOI's) and he was fine.
That's interesting Cannbisoul. I recently got some Rue and Mimosa and was basically just going to fast for 24 hours before to be on the ultra safe side - or maybe just eat rice or something. But I guess that's not necessary after all. I'll do some research on it - but thanks for the tip!
So here's a condensed trip report. I was hesitant to try the nasal route as I have sinus and allergy issues already and I haven't insuffulated many chems for several years. That being said, I really wanted to experience all that is DPT after reading many reports. I weighed out 4 lines of 50mg each. At nine o'clock I snorted the first line. The burn wasn't as bad as 2c-i at first, but the drip and ensuing stuffiness was almost too much to handle. By 9:20, I was able to snort the next line. After that, I retreated to my bed, clutching a couple paper towels that I was using as a handkerchief. I spent most of the trip curled up in my bed, blowing my nose, and wiping my eyes. About 9:45 the drip was so intense that it made me spit up a bit. Not cool. At some point my laptop that was laying in my bed and playing music turned off. The concept of why it would want to shut down while I was enjoying it's effects eluded me. I experienced hearing, in my head, other people's thoughts and/or conversations from several places in the world. I can't remember if I heard them in English or their native language, but either way I knew what they were saying. It wasn't as visual as I was expecting, but I definately can't wait to try other ROA's with this chem. It's been a while since I've had a tryptamine. My nose has been stuffy as hell today and the back of my throat hurts. It was worth it, but I don't want to experience this everytime I experience DPT.
your report contains clear objective indications that something didn't go right. i suspect that much of the powder got stuck in mucous present from said sinus and allergy issues, because your stated effects for 200mg are lower than effects i got from 45mg, and i would say that's a good indication that it's not just a difference of subjective experiences.
Well, Rue will still cause some nausea, so you may want to avoid eating a few hours prior to ingestion
Good point - I pretty much avoid eating at least a few hours before ingesting any kind of drug. Most things just seem to work better that way.
You should snort one after another, get it all up there. And dont blow your nose until your coming down.
That was my goal, but as soon as the first line hit mys nostrils, they seized up and were completely clogged. As I said, I have sinus issues already and think that I may be even more affected by the side effects of snorting. I'm going to CVS this weekend and try to pick up some needles. If for some reason that doesn't work, I'm going with rectal admin. Either case, I should be making another attempt tomorrow evening. I really want to fully experience what DPT has to offer. EDIT: After reading some other sources, apparently 21 or 22 gauge is recommended for IM with 27 or 28 for IV. Looks like I'm going to be giving IM a shot with around 75-100mg tomorrow evening. This seems to be aprox. equivalent to 150-200mg insuffulated. If anyone thinks the dosage should be adjusted from personal experience, let me know.
