I really appreciate theses forums because I can discuss the many uses of drugs, beyond the aspect of just getting fucked up. The background: so my best friend, this chick is the other half of my soul, like no joke. This girl and I are like Yin and Yang with that small bit of overlapping that goes on. I met her my freshman year of college, and she is the person who introduced me to the possibility of psychedelic drugs, especially lsd. She never forced me into it, but was always willing to talk about it with me and answer questions and told me where I could read about it. Needless to say I contemplated acid for about a year before embarking on the journey down the rabbit’s hole. Now she is leaving for China this morning. I’m torn to pieces, for I don’t know when she will be back. She has a return flight but she said there is a possibility of it being postponed, right now her goal is fast money (that is where her and I differ, money is the solution to her problems, but that’s how she was raised) anyway. I get two texts from her today. One saying she is going to make enough money so she can come back to America and retire as a “hippie wook.” She has been down the wookdom (I made that word up) path before, but I’ve never seen her as much of a hippie except in issues such as animal rights, but even then I don’t know. That’s not the point. The next message she sends reads, “You know what I just realized? Once you drop out, you can’t drop back in. That’s the beauty of it. You never forget.” Now I’ve tried to discuss the spiritual aspect of lucy with her, but its rarely anything of a similar nature for the two of us, which is fine, I guess. But this message had me thinking. Sure, once someone has experience lucy, it is hard to forget (especially if one takes the time to write a trip report) but she put all the emphasis on dropping out and this bothered me, perhaps it is me who is ignorant here (and I am not saying she is at all) but I replied, “It’s not about the dropping out, its about the tuning into the rhythms of the universe and maintaining that in everyday, mundane life.” But maybe I am wrong. Perhaps it doesn’t matter, but it really had me thinking about how her and I see acid so differently. I guess I am asking what are your thoughts on her text and my response, and more specifically the whole turn on, tune in, drop out situation is. I do apologize if this is a waste of your time, I just woke up to all this and it has me really thinking And on the side, if I get as much shit done as I plan to today, I may be ingesting six hits later this evening in which case I will contemplate this some more.
The Ten Bulls. Look at what the last step is of this great journey we all talk about undertaking and eat little pieces of paper with stuff on them to undertake and argue about each other about who is undertaking them properly. when you finally awake, you dont need to go anywhere. you are home.
Everyone sees acid differently (even and especially the spiritual crowd) As much as I'd love to share god with my neighbor, the only way to do that is to be in touch with god myself When you attempt to share god from the perspective of ego, what you're really doing is seeking validation, to avoid the anxiety of the very possible reality that your sense of "spirituality" is actually nonsense. As you attempt to "turn people on" to your belief, you're doing so out of fear, in an attempt to prove to your ego that what your ego believes is real. The truth is that NOTHING the ego believes is ever going to be more than "what the ego believes". When you take the perspective of spirit, validation seeking and anxiety about anxiety do not occur. Spirit is shared simply through it's presence, and infinitely more effective than the ego ever could have attempted to accomplish. Belief is no longer relevant. And the really funny thing, is that spirit ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT CARE whether people agree with spirit's thoughts about spirit! To drop out is to take the perspective of spirit Rather than worry about someone else not tuning into the rhythm of the universe, just tune in to the rhythm of the universe. Let it all happen chief, it is what it is, not what it thinks it is
the whole turn on, tune in, drop out thing is more about the taking the acid, or rather getting into that tuning meditative state, and then dropping out into infinity. mr. leary didn't even really know what he was talking about himself, he said he just kind of made it up one day, and it stuck longer then he thought it would. the whole drop out part makes it seem like your dropping out of school, or society, or life. it should be changed to drop in or something. what people don't know, is that acid is intelligent, it will let you see what you need to see to evolve your own consciousness this is what this whole thing has been all about, evolution of consciousness, so tune in and ride the waves, and don't forget to integrate those waves into everyday life.
the first time i did acid, i dropped out big time. i was at uni at the time. does acid. and it changed my life, i dropped out of uni cause i was just stupid. acid put me in a stupid dream where i thought i didnt want to go to uni, i wanted to do somthing else.. but anyway loads more acid and a about 2 years later, and alot cleaner, i am finally going back to uni, kinda wishing i hadnt done acid at all. not to mention a little insaner, and less concentraiton abilities and verbal skills.