I have researched DMT for a year now and it's something I really want to try.I've takin acid in the past but DMT sounds so much more real and spiritual.Buying DMT is not an option because of where I live so extraction is the only way.Palaris is on every lake edge and it's the time of year for it now so I'm determined to make it work .There are alot of extraction processes out there but this one seems handy # Pulverize the grass clippings # Add water, "enough... to make a pourable soup" # Acidify to pH 5 or so # (Optional) Simmer the acidified soup in a slow cooker overnight, not allowing the liquid to evaporate. ("It may take two or three such operations to get all of the alkaloids into solution") # Strain the plant matter through cheesecloth, then through a paper coffee filter # Add 10-15% of the mass of the solution in a "defatting solvent" such as methylene chloride, ether, chloroform, or naptha. # Shake vigorously # The crap will go into the solvent, leaving the good stuff in the water. # Separate the water from the solvent. # Add a base to the aqueous solution in small increments until the pH gets to about 9 or 10. This converts the alkaloids into their free base. # Extract with 10% of the mass of the solution of an organic solvent four times, at one 24-hour and then three weekly intervals. The solvent layer will take on a darker tint, usually yellowish or reddish-brown. It will take almost a month to extract all of the alkaloids, and the solution should be shaken at least twice a day between extractions. # Evaporate the solvent off from the combined extract fractions. You now have the alkaloids. Ancient powers added this I know with phalaris grass your gonna need scissors to cut it up. Try cutting up the grass into tiny pieces first. Add cut up leaf to a blender but no more than half full. Add only enough distilled water to make it liquify. Fill any jar depending on the amount of phalaris soup made to no more than 3/4 full. I would skip the de-fatting part since it never gets out all the crap first anyways. just use 1tbsp NaOH or KOH per 150ml of phalaris soup. Adding 1tbsp at a time to cool or cold soup. allow 30 min to basify add 1/3 the volume of naptha to soup. roll jar 100x then remove solvant layer by siphoning using a small clear rubber tube or cup it off with a small plastic cup. extract alkaloids out of solvant using a solution of 1 drop muratic acid per 25ml of distilled water used. You want to use a small but worthwhile amount of acidic water to pull the alkaloids out of the naptha and into the water layer as a salt. The alkaloid is more stable in salt form. remove and return the naptha to soup jar and repeat 2x using new acidic water each time. This will get all the alkaloids out within hours. allow the water to evaporate on a glass pie dish or baking dish. speed it up by using an electric burner on low to avoid burning your alkaloids. scrape up alkaloids into a powdery pile and add to a glass test tube or cigar tube. add naptha to use to clean the crystals. allow time for crystals to settle to the bottom before pouring off naptha. add and pour off naptha until the solvant remains clear. Also only pour off top half of solvant at a time to avoid pouring off any alkaloids. when solvant remains clear pour onto clean evaporation dish and and give it some time to evaporate into pure alkaloid salts. I have the palaris,lye,naptha and litmus papers .Where do I go from here cause I'm a small bit lost ?? Should I aim for a 6 week long or 2 day long extraction ??I'm no chemist so can someone lay out a definate plan for me from here Any help would be much appreciated Thanks
i dont know all the details, but there are some pretty decent photo-tutorials for the step-by-step extraction (most are for MHRB, but the process should be similar).
A very simple method would be the Marsofold tek. It's been said to be as easy as baking a cake. Not all teks are created equal btw. QT tek on erowid for instance is crap.
that sounds about right. although i never did a defatting step, i imagine this would probably be needed for phalaris grass. it's a personal choice really. you might get a cleaner yield, at the cost of some dmt. otherwise i'm not entirely sure what the defatting step actually removes. when you are using the solvent at the end to do the pulls out of the water you don't need to wait weeks between pulls. really as soon as you are done extracting the solvent from one pull you can throw some more solvent in there and start preparing for the next pull. the best way to do it is LOTS and LOTS of small pulls. this will result in a larger quantity, cleaner quality, product. instead of evaporating the solvent to obtain the dmt i think that freezing it works better. you want to pool together your pulls and then maybe evaporate it down to about 1/2 or 1/4 of its original volume to make the dmt in there a little more concentrated. after that you can throw it in the freezer overnight or for a few days and dmt crystals will precipitate out. you just want to filter these out and then put the remaining liquid back into your pool of pulls from your dmt-lye-water solution. if you really want you can get some xylene to pull from your leftover solution after all the dmt is gone. this will pull out what is commonly known as 'jungle spice'. some potent stuff. much, much, much more powerful than dmt. it forms a yellow, orange, or brown crystal. there was this great thread on some forum going through all the different methods of extracting dmt and the chemistry behind each step. this is great if you have any basic knowledge of chemistry. basically what you are going to want to do is: chop up all your grass, and beat it to a pulp. might be a good idea to use a blender. acidify your water solution. maintain a healthy grass-water ratio. it doesn't really matter, but the more grass you have the more concentrated your solution will be. the tek becomes almost impossible if your solution isn't concentrated enough. simmer for a few hours. strain out the grass. let sit overnight. pour off the surface water leaving behind any leftover grass gook that solidified in the bottom. basify your solution. add naptha and mix gently for 20 minutes if your patient. extract the naptha off with a turkey baster repeat adding naptha and extracting it. these are your 'pulls' repeat your pulls until you cease to get any dmt pool together all your pulls and evaporate off some of the naptha. freeze precipitate out dmt crystals once the naptha gets adequately concentrated(it may show a yellowish tint once it gets fairly concentrated -- this is some of the jungle spice being pooled together with your dmt) well once your dmt is freeze precipitated well then your done i guess. enjoy your final product. if you want to clean your dmt because it is looking too yellow(dmt is white, it should be white) then you can redissolve your product back into naptha and freeze precipitate it back out. this may cost you some dmt though. keep in mind dmt is very soluble in naptha at high temperatures while it is hardly soluble at all at low temperatures. this is why it precipitates out at freezing temperates. in order to obtain more dmt in your naptha pulls, you can heat up your naptha slightly(be careful, it's flammable!) but this also seems to pull out some jungle spice along with the dmt unfortunatly. and finally if you feel the urge to then you can extract the jungle spice left in your basic solution with some xylene or toulene and evaporate off the solvent. be careful with this stuff, it's not to be trifled with. i'd recomend just sticking with dmt. keep in mind you are going to need a LOT of grass. you may want to find out what the dmt content is of phalaris grass. mhrb is only 0.5% dmt, and it has the highest concentration of dmt in any plant. actually now that i think of it jungle spice can only be extracted from mhrb, so just forget that part. its awsome that you have litmus papers though. that would make things so much easier. i need to get me some of those.
I tried making DMT from Palaris grass, but it didn't work. I then got some mimosa hostilis and that worked fine.
