Got it back today! Went over there, was pissed at her for a while and then somehow warmed up to her again, we ended up fucking, I left pretty soon after that and she gave me the xbox on the way out. I know I really should just get rid of her completely now, but I don't think I can. It's weird - when I'm with her, everything seems great, but when I'm not, all I think about when I think of her is how much she sucks. And now that we're "friends" again she's already making plans to hang out with me in a couple of days. I can't just go from being friends with her again after "forgiving" her for her fuckup, back to not talking to her ever again, can I?
you are hilarious. im happy you got your xbox back, just what i said you were going to fo over fuck her and then get it back and then leave
Yes, you can and must. I dunno about you, but the people I loathe most are liars and manipulators. People who manipulate regularly, who have bothered to cultivate a skill in doing so, are people who care only about their own needs and interests. They trick people into doing things that are only in their own interests and against those of the manipulated person - if it WASNT against their interests then the manipulators wouldn't have to manipulate them in the first place. So what you have is a very selfish girl. This is bad. If she can trick you into going from hating her and wanting nothing more than to get away from her to suddenly feeling like you need to have her around again then I'm scared to think what else she might be able to make you do. Think about it. By calling your repeatedly and withholding your property this girl is saying "You will either do what whatever I want you to do or I will make you suffer." Do you really want anything to do with such a person? The way I see it, this girl has no problem manipulating you with no regard for you wants or needs, so I see nothing wrong with doing a bit of manipulating of your own by pretending to be her friend again for a night, nabbing the xbox, then never talking to the bitch again. Don't fall for her trap again. The next time she sends a volley of text messages your way I'd recommend using a little trick I learned awhile back. Sign onto aim, click people and "send instant message." Lets say her number (with area code) is 223-456-7890. . . send a message to +12234567890 (remember to add the 1 to the beginning, after the "+" but before the area code). Then send another. And another and another and another. You'll show her what it feels like and then some. She won't even get the chance to send any more messages to your phone because, with a keyboard, you'll be able to send messages faster than she can clear the 'new message' screen from the phone. Ten minutes of this and she'll be getting new messages continuously through the next morning. If you're lucky she won't have unlimited texting and will have to pay for them. I think she'll probably leave you alone after that, which is in your best interests. Oh yeah, remember to type a different message each time, even if its only different by one character - that way they won't register as repeats and will fill her phone's memory.
So you would attribute my change of heart about her to some kind of manipulation on her part, rather than a genuine change in what I believe about her?
Exactly. You were done with her. Wanted nothing to do with her anymore. She knew this and so took measures to force you to see her in person where she knew she could set the sex trap thereby forcing you to agree to be "friends" again, or whatever you guys are to each other. If manipulation is not responsible for the change then what is? Did you suddenly see something beautiful in her you had not noticed before in your brief visit to pick up the xbox and get laid? Or do you simply feel, as you suggested in one of your posts, that you are now obligated to set aside a place in your life for her because she provided sex and got you to say you would be her friend again?
Nobody here truly knows what your dealing with. Make up your own mind. I'm sure everybody here is basing their advice on THEIR past experiences (not a bad thing) but yours is truly yours. You own it, you run with it. Just look at the warning signs, what you know about yourself and her, and then decide what is best for you right now. The future nobody knows, that is unfortunately the suffrage of humankind. The choice is ultimately yours.
To me it seems like he was just mad, as was her, which will blind your judgment. Relationships are more complicated than anyone can express in one post, let alone a lifetime.
Not that it matters, but having read posts from Diton I think this explains it. She's a bitch for all she did and the poster ^ did a great job of explaining how she is a manipulator. Again... this is only based on Diton's posts which may have been bias to begin with. At the end of the day, only Diton knows and will decide.
the more i keep talking to her, the more i keep oscillating between liking her and completely hating her. and i really do feel like there's a constant undercurrent of manipulation when i'm dealing with her. like when i'm with her she always tells me she loves me knowing that i don't want to say it to her unless i really mean it, and she says it in such an imploring way, to the point where i've been tempted to tell her i do without even wanting to. and another example, she just texted me saying she was hysterical and crying because no one (listed me, her mom, and work as examples) loves her. i tried to console her by saying everything would work out alright and that she could leave as soon as she's done with college, and she sent back: "I don't want to leave unless it's with you. I want to be with you. I want you to see me as i see you. I want you to adore me.' I feel even more trapped now than before. I feel like I had my chance to cut her off right after I got the xbox back from her, and I blew it. Now that I'm talking to her again I'm completely stuck.
uh hell NO!!! she got the xbox?!?!? you better get over there and get it, she tryin to hi-jack that shit, yo...
lol, i have so many relationships behind me -- and so much stuff, money, memorabilia left behind other people's houses... i never get them back.... so, im glad u managed to get that xbox... but, man, your story is weird)
lol. that it is. still can't bring myself to just cut her off cold. but i know if i try to talk to her and explain, it'll go badly and somehow not end.
of course. this is a woman we're talking about. they are masters of mindgames. if you were a real man you would keep her around and fuck her every once in a while but dont get involved emotionally and always wear a condom (even when you aren't having sex).
Yeah, my bullshit detector sounds like a gieger counter in this thread too. Sounds like Diton luuuuuuuvs her, but doesnt want to get hurt cos she's a skankturtle that does guys her dads age at the same time