My first high dose of DPT– total ego death. [Trip Report]

Chemical: DPT hcl
Dose: ~70+ mg, Insufflated
Subject: Me, 19 year old male, 170 pounds.
Mindset: A bit anxious and tired
Setting: A hill in a hiking park, in the summer on a sunny day.
Dosage time 6:54 PM


My mindset wasn’t the greatest; I told myself that I couldn’t let my anxious, sleep deprived state affect the psychedelic experience that I, my girlfriend [E], and two other friends [W and C] had planed for this evening. I have had one other experience with DPT at a low dose of ~25-30 mg and had a somewhat mild, but very fun trip. My dose was ~70mg on this day was absolutely bewildering; 70 mg of DPT hcl for lack of a better term blew my mind. The open eye visuals were almost too intense to comprehend, and accurately describe, and the head trip was crushingly intense.

I am a somewhat experienced Psychonaut, and I have taken more pleasure drugs than I care to mention, but as for anything remotely psychedelic my list is as follows: Mushrooms, LSD, Ketamine, DMT, DXM [if it counts], Marijuana [I don’t smoke regularly at all], MDMA, 4MMC [mephedrone], Methylone...you get the idea…and my aforementioned experience with low dose DPT.

T+0 [6:54pm] – I insufflate my measured dose of 50 mg, then take another good sized bump that I assumed was about 10 mg, that turned out to be closer to 20 mg. I wasn’t concerned with the inaccurate measurement because people have told me to start with doses of 100mg. We all dosed except for W, who just wanted to trip-sit. So we begin to hike up the hill trail to find ourselves a spot to watch the sun set, and look at the beautiful trees and rolling hills.

T+5 minutes – I’m already at a solid +, beginning to see enhanced colors. I can feel my heart start to pound, blood pressure rise, and my anxiety build slightly, so I utilize a breathing relaxation exercise as I walk up the steep trail. I close my eyes and breathe deeply and slowly as I feel my mind begin to drift. I could tell that this wasn’t going to be an every day experience; I was really in for a ride.

T+20-30 minutes – I’m starting to trip hard. I’m somewhere between a ++ and a +++ already, and we haven’t even hiked up to our desired location yet. A man jogs by us and nods his head, and I had a lot of trouble formulating words. I managed to mumble some distorted greeting just after he passed us. The ground begins to crawl with distortions, the tall dried grass seems to be moving with the kind of animation that only tryptamines can give. I’m still feeling anxious, and at this point realize that in a matter of minutes I this chemical will completely crush me, and there is nothing I can do about it. I hug E, then begin to get lost in this emerging world hallucinations. The visual world begins to shake back and forth quickly, shapes distort, and my body feels very odd; my current state reminds me a lot of coming up on a smoked dose of DMT, but a lot slower. I tell C that I am beginning to trip hard. I feel kind of cold due to the wind and the fact that I didn’t have a sweater [though C and W later insist that it was about 70 degrees] and I start to shiver. This had happened to me years ago on LSD, and lead to a somewhat unpleasant, jaw grinding experience.

T+30-40 minutes – At this point, my memory gets kind of fuzzy. We make it up to the top of a hill with a beautiful view, and a nice tree to sit under. At this point, the trees and other vegetation seem fully animate, complete with swirling complex colors. I realize that I am tripping harder than I ever have in my life [including my 6 gram potent mushroom trip, and yes, in a way I was tripping harder than a breakthrough dose of DMT]. I realize that I definitely was not ready for an experience like this, but I have to ride it out. Besides, I don’t think anybody could really be “ready” for something like this, but this definitely wasn’t the right day and mindset for an experience of this magnitude.

T+35-75 minutes – This is where I start to plateau, for moments, I was at complete ego death, possibly a ++++. I remember scattered events, and specific hallucinations, but not the order at which any occurred. I recall being extremely confused, shivering on the hillside lying on E’s lap transfixed upon the beautiful landscape. I really wish I had a sweater. The trees in the distance were swirling freely, as if they were puddles of paint being stirred in a fractal-esque pattern. Just adjacent to the swirling trees, on a bare hill, I begin to see shapes emerge from the texture in the landscape. I see small faces in everything, which is normal for me on any tryptamine, but this got a lot crazier. In the texture, I saw a group of M. C. Escher like lizards (if you’ve seen the lithograph “reptiles” by Escher sometime in the 1940s, the lizards were of the exact shape). The lizards were geometrically linked together, and moving around freely. Throughout my entire plateau all the tall brown grass seemed to have thorns, and looked somewhat menacing, and I was seeing a lot of fractals in things. It seems that every swirling color swirled in the same pattern.

At some point a bit later [I think] I recall walking down a path, and seeing a colorful aura lifting above the dry grass on the sides of the trail. This aura rose up, at least 10 feet and was smoke like in texture, though moved very slowly. All of my visuals were absolutely astonishing. Honestly, they were kind of overwhelming at times, but very beautiful nevertheless.

My head trip was what was truly overwhelming, and my negative mindset defiantly manifested itself. I spent a lot of time thinking about my past opiate [primarily oxycodone] dependency, even though I’ve been off of opiates for about a year. I wasn’t talked to by some mystical figure, I didn’t feel touched by a divine voice, I was just in my head…intensely introspective. It seems like there would be 5 minute cycles of total immersion in the experience, then a minute or two reality check.

T+75 minutes and onward – So after we came down, we headed back into town, got some food then hung out. I really was the only one of the three trippers that had such an intense experience. E only took about 50 mg, and she said she didn’t trip any harder than her previous 25 mg dose, and C took a little less than I did, and didn’t trip hard at all [though he weighs about 60 pounds more than I do]. C said that next time he’ll want to do about 120 mg.

This was defiantly the most intense psychedelic experience of my entire life. I was in the wrong mindset, and not prepared for the experience. The intensity of it caught me off guard, since I’ve heard it really doesn’t get too crazy until 100 mg, but I really should have expected an intense experience. I still have a bit of it left, but probably won’t do it again until I’ve prepared myself…I will go for either a higher or lower dose, because it seems like there really are 2 faces to the chemical. My first trial [at the lower does ob 25-30mg] was a mushroom-like experience, and I think a higher dose would be a “behind closed eyelids” dmt like experience. For most of my trip at this dosage, I could barely stand, but wanted to be outside, which implies that a higher dose in the proper setting would provide an experience similar to dmt, which isn’t for outside.


Quite the experience.

 

I also submitted this to erowid.

 

Nice trip report man, DPT sounds so amazing i cant wait to get my hands on some one day.

 

thanks...i made a point to write it out the best i could, and nomatter how well i could have described it, nothing will come close to actually taking it.

 

Nice report.
I agree that words will never describe the experience.

Are you going to crank up the dose in the future?
I don't have much to compare it to, but 150mg is a incredibly psychedelic dose.

Everyone on here keeps writing about DPT.. it makes me jealous that mine is out
Haha.

 

Yeah higher dose is a lie-down-with-eyes-closed thing. I also get cold on DPT, like mdma.

grats for diving in do a higher dose next time, indoors

 

Cool man, cool. I have never gotten cold, and I have done up to 300mg nasally. I usually sweat, but "hot" or "cold" mean absolutly nothing.

 

yea, the time i did a low dose, it seemed like sweating was a physical reaction to the chemical; i was sweating my face off at night, but that time i was shivering and it was kinda windy.

 

Sounds like you had an interesting trip, good job man:cheers2: It seems like how much DPT it takes for people to have the full on experience can vary alot, for you and Mr Writer you guys have gotten off on doses less than 100 mg. But with me, I felt like 100 mg wasn't enough and I am going to try a 200 mg dose soon (I'm starting prozac treatment soon, hopefully this wont diminish the effects anymore), and pr0ne has taken 300 mg and had good trips too.

 

iget sweaty and chilled on most powerful medicines

 

What Mr. Writer said.

As well as that, 200mg can be a powerful dose. Be careful.

 

Damnit magical... You know its against forum rules to offer drugs publicly... I know you don't care about security, but CHILL!!! <.<

 

It's edited, happy? lol

Hopefully they never start enforcing the SWIM rule on these forums, that would absolutely suck. Hopefully in that case in wouldn't be because of me

 

I wouldn't worry about a SWIM rule. Unlikely, IMHO. But thanks for adhering to the forum guidelines anyway.

 

Now CannbisSouL has to edit his post of Magical mystery tourguide's post... ;P

Would anyone consider taking DPT as a migraine abortive treatment? Insufflation of a sub-hallucinogenic dose, or would that cause too much dysphoria? Maybe DMT works because it's so short acting and not as intense?

 

how would dpt fix a migraine?

 

Because lsd and psillocybin do. Xanonimity, do you suffer from migraines, if so then why not try lsd and psilocybin first to see if they work, then try DPT.


Anybody know what happened to Relayer? I heard he got banned or something, but he was a moderator and I thought it would be unlikely that a moderator would get banned lol.

 

Lol, I wonder if Relayer was relaying too much information?.

Migraines? for the last 23 years, I'm 23.

I can't get reliable psilocybin, I know, I'll eventually grow. The last mushrooms I got were hardly effective and I ate an eighth I think.

The guy said they were "baeos" so I'm guessing it was "Baeocystin." (Sched I) 3-[2-(methylammonio)ethyl]-1H-indol-4-yl hydrogen phosphate.

"Baeocystin is a mushroom alkaloid and analog of the psychedelic hallucinogenic drug psilocybin, a tryptamine derivative. It is found as a minor compound in most psychoactive mushrooms together with psilocybin, norbaeocystin, and psilocin. Little information exists with regard to human pharmacology, but a dosage of 10mg is reported to produce entheogenic effects."

These did nothing to me, maybe they were just a bad crop. They were so weak. I don't even think I could get that shit anytime soon, anyways. I don't know any chemists either, so I can't get LSD.

I have ordered 4-aco-dmt, however, and it should ship soon, lol... It was a rip-off, but I got a small amount.

I know two good places to get DPT, and one ships really quickly, so that's why I'm interested in DPT.

I'm just thinking what it feels like, maybe someone could know if it felt like it would help with pain, or not. Like, if DPT is already dysphoric, maybe it's no good. Maybe DMT works better because it's so short acting, and maybe psilocybin works better because it's gentler, you know?

What does a sub-hallucinogenic dose of DPT feel like?

 

A friend took a ~15 mg bump of dpt, and felt it, but didn't really "trip".

 

it feels like you are about to trip, but never do. you get stuck on the comeup.