Hedonism bad for society? Do we owe society? Hedonists = low life?

I was discussing hedonism with someone and he basically argued that
1. being a hedonist i. e. being self serving, if it feels good do it, etc. is being a low life, and that people OWE society.
2. As a woman specifically i should have children and raise a family for the sake of society and if I want to spend my life NOT having kids but living my own life and having fun, i'm also a low life.
Discuss?

 

I think you owe it to society to openly live free. Because everyone wants to live in a free, open society.

 

You owe it to yourself to do exactly what you want. If having children and entertaining society helps you reach your goals in life, go right ahead. If your life doesn't need to fancy those things, then live the 2nd path.

We're not bees in a colony serving the queen, but we can group together when it benefits us.

 

That would depend on whether it's bad for individuals in society.

 

For what? You didn't ask to be born. You didn't pick where you were born, or when. You didn't agree to any kind of a deal.

Control freaks need to get the fuck over themselves.

 

You owe "Society" for the standard of living you enjoy, the relative safety in which you enjoy it, the safety nets in place (Social welfare, healthcare etc. etc.) Quite a few things actually. If you feel it has done nothing for you, you're incredibly deluded.

Hedonism and individual self interest are bad for Society when the amount of people participating in it reaches a critical mass and the society can no longer sustain itself.

 

I think I need to go to some place like Hedonism II or III or Sea Mountain Inn, or just some place where everyone is naked and getting it on right in front of God and everybody and see how I like it.

I'm not sure. I read a review on tripadvisor that said that no one at Hedonism III ever got out of the pool to pee, ever. That's not cool at all. That much hedonism is not cool.

 

As long as you're not affecting their precious society in an adverse manner, it's okay.

To say that by not having children you're doing the world anything but a favor, is just ignorant. If only more people could be so selfless.

Contribute something if you can, but at the very least don't be detrimental to society, and all will be well.

Peeing in the pool should be mandatory, but it's much better in the ocean.

 

I do my job, and I pay my taxes. That's the way it works.

 

What do you or anyone else owe to this profoundly sick society? If anything, society owes us a fuck of a lot more than we owe it.

As long as you aren't hurting someone or damaging their property, who cares what you do. I am sick of people being persecuted because they don't want the government making decisions for them.

Why is someone who seeks pleasure a "low life"? Isn't that the point - to be happy? Being subservient, bored, and unhappy shouldn't be part of any society. You get what you give, and society has given me nothing but persecution, alienation, and incarceration. Live your life. Fuck society.

 

hell yeah.

 

If part of your hedonism includes some aspect of society, then yeah, you are a part of society and should be have as such.

 

Society is Hedonism

Just that there is one act for in public, another for in private

Half the time control freaks are just covering their own tracks so no one gets suspicious

 

not much hedonism in my 9-5 how bout you?

 

A little, but no, not really

 

That's how income tax works, yes.... are you suggesting paying taxes is society? we're talking about two different things here.

 

When I went to Hedonism in Negril, Jamaica, and spent four hours naked in the pool, I heard something even worse.

I heard that all a woman had to do to get pregnant was to get into the pool!

No, none of the sperm was mine.

 

oh my dear god, no!

 

You've got it figured out. :cheers2:

Most of the stuff you listed earlier is a function of government. Paid for by taxes.

I only swim in the ocean at those places.

 

um...fish fuck in it.