Masonic lodges/RFID chips

There has been a large surge in local lodges attending children schools. They are preaching that if you want your child safe. Such as from rapists, murderers, kidnapping and other fear mongering tactics. That your child is better of with a radio frequency identification chips.

Of course, your dog might have one. But a pet is not your child. Plus, with increasing pressure from big brother. What is the larger scheme of this? The larger part of the plan is of course to make a human control grid. Nobody can fly under or past big brother radar. Just curious. What are other fellow HF members think about this. ?

Opinions from people that have kids and do not are more than welcome. IMO, there can be nothing good from this. If so, is very inconsequential to say the least.

Where do you fit in this human control grid and most importantly why.
I would definitely not let my child have a RFID chip in her. Just like IBM in world war two. Putting the numbers on the jews to be exterminated. And IBM is an American company.

 

the ultimate plan is to make society based around chips, much like how a drivers license is used except 100 times more extreme because there is no faking it and its litterally with you all the time.

it will probably be used like a creditcard as well.
and a dog tag
maybe some ten-twenty years after it becomes normal you'll see some bluetooth like features.

but the basis wil remain constant: if you cause trouble THEY WILL find you.

the punishment idea is simply, turning off your chip. essentially exiling you from society, which i believe will create a sick underworld.

who knows, science fiction is becoming less fiction every day.

 

That is called The Mark of the Beast!

 

Yep. It is possible it would create an underworld type of society. The problem is, people would become isolated to an extent that yes they would be exiled. Though possibilities are extreme. The people who do not take the mark could be the ones to create a revolution of the people. If reliant on themselves and not the global government. Welcome to a cashless society where all your information is put onto a card. Criminal history, medical, down to what kind of finger prints you have. Making a driver's license impractical.

 

Not impractical...



Obsolete.

 

Nor would I ever allow such a thing in my children. But I'm always a little perplexed when people start preaching about "Big Brother". Look around you ... Big Brother has already been here for decades. He's a firmly entrenched feature of modern society. The idea of this chip thing is nothing new ... it's just an incremental "advance" in the concept.

Why aren't you complaining about your social security number being used to track every financial transaction you make? Why aren't you complaining about supermarket "shopper's clubs" being used to track your purchases? Why aren't you complaining about video surveillance, which is literally everywhere, from banks to convenience stores to sporting events? Why aren't you complaining about insurance companies using your computerized medical records to issue/deny coverage?

There are a zillion aspects of Big Brother in our society already that most people simply take for granted. Why are you so worried about something that barely exists, when there are so many other things that compromise your anonymity to an infinitely greater degree?

Just as one more example, what's the first thing the courts do when they want to find someone who's lost/hiding, or when they want a deeper insight into someone's criminal activity? They seize his banking and cell phone records. From those, you can get a pretty detailed idea of what someone has been up to.

To me, this chip thing is appalling, but let's be realistic ... all it does is enhance the information already available from banking and phone records.

 

Exactly, it makes it easier.


Which is why its a problem.


It makes these things much easier to abuse.

 

The whole point of this thread was really for micro chip discussion. Trust me. I am aware that "big brother" is already around us. Have watched st.Louis turn into something like London. Where you cannot go around a descent suburb without being caught on camera a dozen times. More or less, we are not capable to be able to change the ultimate plan. For we are not capable of changing it. Just like the very forums we speak about our rights are more than likely ran by people participating in government agencies.

Plus i can change my social security number. I may not be able to keep them from tracking me.

What i can do is not fall into the traps made by these con artists. That is the difference. Some things people can change. Or at the least slow down the engine. A satellite you cannot shoot down. Waking people up to these obnoxious idealistic facets being put into real effect i can.

 

I want to become a blank.

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This issue is less about monitoring and more about control. It's true that almost everything you do anymore is tracked. But, right now, it's only tracked. They look up your cell phone records (if you have one, which not everyone does) after you've done something bad. But, they can't really stop you from doing it.

With RFID chips tracking wherever you go, all the time, they can absolutely control what you do. They can close and lock a gate when someone who's not supposed to go through it gets near...they can shut off your car's engine and lock its brakes if you try to run a red light...etc. etc. etc.

This is some scary shit. And it goes way beyond looking at bank transactions.

 

Getting a chip put into your child should be considered child abuse. I actually feel the same way about pets.
Not to mention, I don't really see how it could prevent any of those mentioned crimes from happening, really.

 

Holy shit man! The only type of chip that is going in my body are fucking Doritos. This reminded me of the movie 'Logan's Run'. Crazy shit. We should be able to live our lives without being monitored and tracked like animals.

 

You can only refuse what you know about... so if they wanted to put a chip in the flu shots...immunizations and with government health care on the loom, who's going to stop them?

 

God?

 

It might if you put the chip into the criminal, but nobody's suggesting doing that. And I wouldn't advocate that either.

The problem I have with those chips is that they completely destroy privacy. COMPLETELY.

Unlike the AVID chips that go in pets, which only have an encoded number that has to be checked against a database to identify the animal, RFID chips contain all of your personal information. All of it. So, anyone with an RFID scanner can tell everything about you. Your name, address, phone number, high school GPA, traffic record, criminal record (if you have one), last grocery purchase, license plate number... EVERYTHING.

There doesn't have to be a universal database. They just wave their scanner over your arm, and BAM! You are instantly guilty of everything you've ever done that was even slightly questionable in the eyes of, well, whoever's holding the scannner.

 

Never seen it all the way through. But, if you really want to be scared, check out 'The Last Enemy,' a BBC mini-series that ran on PBS' Masterpiece Contemporary a few months ago. It is, quite possibly, the scariest thing I've ever seen.

 

I'm a little confused. What exactly do Masonic lodges have to do with this?

 

thats what i was wondering.
there is nothing preposterous about masons. its ridiculous.

but someone would have to kill me before they put any sort of tracking device on me thats for sure.

 

Masons are shape-shifting lizard bitches.

 

he said in the the first couple of sentances some masons went to elementary schools to promote the chip.

 

that would be the illuminati actually, which is *the elite* division of masonry.
mythical rulers of the world blah blah blah.