WARNING to new RCers / 4-ACO-DMT

I think he wanted to compare 4-aco-dmt to actual shrooms. 2c-x's are definitely different. Although 2c-e has a shroom like trip, but longer.

 

2ce is nothing like shrooms, in my experience, aside from the fact that they are both psychedelic.

 

I don't think you can compare phenethylamines to tryptamines.

I would infer from my experience that any tryptamines is just like dreaming while awake.

I've never gotten "visuals" really other than a little pleasantly warped nature here and there, and the feeling of being in a different room; the walls extended where they shouldn't, it wasn't really visual. I imagine phenethylamines would be purely visual as they don't act on the tryptamine sleep/dream molecule?

I don't think you can compare PEAs to tryptamines at all since I would guess one does something objectively (PEA) and one does something subjectively (tryptamines) just making you dream while you are awake. That's my inference with only tryptamine experience. I was disappointed that there were no pure visual effects.

What is the best phenethylamine with no anxiety? 2C-C?

 

I had to take 40-50 mgs 2c-e to get what I wanted and it was very shroomy for me. Not cube's but cy's. Although it was more stimulating than shrooms.

I think you can compare tryptamines to phenethylamines but that just my personal opinion.

 

Dude...EVERY psychedelic has potential anxiety.
Shit even weed has potential anxiety.
I've heard people have negative experiences from 2cc, so don't think that's your safe bet.
I've also heard of people getting visuals on 4-aco...maybe you dosed wrong? idk.
It sounds like you need to stay away from psychedelics, cuz the way you talk about anxiety leads me to believe you could have a very bad experience.
You have to either learn to overcome your anxiety, or just stick with your k-pins n shit.
But really...when you're taking multiple trips to the hospital it's time to stop.

 

I understand that I will have to stay away from psychs for awhile.

What about DMT, though? I know there is initial anxiety but very little time to feel it.

I've heard that it can cure depression in the long term, would this be similar for anxiety, or something to stay away from, too?

 

Id recommend you not try DMT because the initial emotion you feel is one of intense fear.
Granted it fades out quickly for most people.
It is the most intense psychedelic out there other than possibly DPT.
If you're having trouble handling lower level psychs why would you want to try out the most intense???
Then again maybe a breakthrough would force you to view anxiety itself in a different light.
Seriously though...any psych you've done can't really compare to DMT. I had dropped 10 strips before taking DMT, and it still blew me away.
I couldn't believe something could be that intense with practically no come up.
When you come down it's like tripping face on cid, but you feel like you're back and normal compared to the psychedelic state you had been in moments before.

 

Yea, that's why I'm interested, maybe I would see my anxiety in a different light, but I would have to do more research.

I wonder though, about a very very low dose and how that would affect anxiety/depression.

I've heard low dose ketamine is helpful in that respect, and that's interesting anyways because it seems that is the only psych with no anxiety.

 

2c-e compares more to acid in my opinion...i don't see it compare to mushrooms much at all. 2c-e is MUCH more clearheaded than mushrooms for me and a my friends, though it's all so subjective.

 

2ce is more clearheaded for me, as well, but only at moderate doses. At 50-63mg of 2ce, I've experienced extreme confusion and some severe mindfuck.

 

/anxiety isn't all that bad.

 

In low doses ketamine isn't really psychedelic though. It's more of a sedative until you dose a lil higher.
With DMT low doses just seem like a waste to me...I guess it could be fun, but the DMT experience is had with good doses not weak ones.

 

Yea well I have bad ongoing anxiety, I even can't use my medical Cannabis anymore it seems... this saddens me.

This is why I want low dose K or DMT; I don't care about the psych factor, just the fact that it may stop depression or reduce anxiety is what is important to me. If I can every once in awhile take more, then that's nice, too.

 

I don't see you gaining any medical benefits from ketamine.
What's your perspective on DMT? What do you think it is?
For whatever reason I feel you're getting the wrong impressions about the spirit molecule.

 

I know what it is; I'm just interested in alternative uses. I think I don't produce enough naturally and microdosing might help, I'm not sure. I remember hearing about it being a cure for depression or something along those lines.

There is evidence of K in low doses helping depression and anxiety.

 

Dude I've done k, and I don't see how it could help in the way you want it to.
Sure, while you're completely fucked on it there's no depression or anxiety. It is a cat tranquilizer, so you get extremely sedated.
I really doubt DMT would work the way you want it to.
Go for it and smoke some.
That's the only way you'll know.

 

Xanonimity,
whats your diet like?
How much TV do you watch or video games do you play?
How tedious is you day to day activities?
Do you work out?
Do you use a lot of stimulants or have you in the past?
How often do you binge on any substance?

All are factors in anxiety.

 

My diet is organic, good healthy, I used to play video games all day, now I just watch TV and use the internet, my day to day activities are overwhelming when I was working but now not at all, except I still have anxiety. I used to take Focalin 3 times a day for like a year or so and the last time I took it I had a panic attack so I stopped, it's been like 6 months.

I used to exercise more when I was working physical labor but I still had anxiety, and I plan on exercising more now.

I don't binge on any substances, besides having like 6-8 beers a few times per week.

 

I have pretty saevere nxiety/depression issues, myself, but they are very far from my mind when I'm tripping. This could be due to dosing high though. On high doses of psychedelics, I seem to be too far out to be affected by the stresses of everyday life.