grow lights $?

Discussion in 'Marijuana Growing' started by bekyboo52, Jul 26, 2009.

  1. bekyboo52

    bekyboo52 52~unknown~52

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    so i wanted to get started on growing maybe 1 or 2 plants but i am unaware of light prices. could anybody possibly tell me about a reletively cheap but effective lighting system?

    id check my self on the internet but my mum put some stupid parental blocker on the p.c. :(
     
  2. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    your mom put a parental block on your computer that doesnt allow you to look up grow lights but it allows hip forums??

    lol now thats a shitty parental block..
     
  3. monstermann68

    monstermann68 Member

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    Do not grow at your parent's house without their explicit permission. Based on the fact that they don't trust you to browse the internet properly, I'm guessing they would not approve of your growing ambitions. You put them in a very risky legal situation by doing so (they could lose their jobs, the house, etc. if you are caught by the wrong people). Not to mention the inevitable: YOUR PARENTS WILL CATCH YOU. Cannabis growing is not something that you can hide from people in your own house. Given the amount of light, electricity, fans and smell from a growing op (yes, even with 1 or two plants), you'll get about a week, maybe two before they find it.

    Once you move into your own place, then start thinking about growing. It is worth the effort, but only if you do it properly, safely and responsibly. :)
     
  4. bekyboo52

    bekyboo52 52~unknown~52

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    my mum doesent care about me going on stupid sights.... my little brother keeps trying to look up porn and getting p.c. virusis and shhit... on norton it has high madium and low, she set it to medium which blocks out sex drugs and murder. she put an exception on youtube and hipforums though.

    and if my mum finds out then she wouldn't really care./ we live in a stupid ghetto neighborhood .. i don't think she'd care about a pot plant. i think she'd be releived that it's only pot. i already ran the idea by her to, she said "just as long as no one caN see it".... so i was thinking of putting it in my closet
     
  5. Freedom_Man

    Freedom_Man Senior Member

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    "Grow Light Guide
    [SIZE=+2]
    [/SIZE]Marijuana grow light systems allow you to extend the growing season by providing your plants with an indoor equivalent to sunlight. This is a great advantage for those of you who appreciate having a year-round supply of fresh flowers, veggies and herbs. Artificial lighting is also a great way to jump-start spring by starting your seedlings months ahead of the last frost. There are three main types of horticultural lighting systems.​
    [SIZE=+1]HID (High Intensity Discharge) Lighting[/SIZE]
    HID lighting is the most efficient way to convert electricity into light that is available to the consumer. There are two types of HID grow lights used for horticultural lighting:
    [SIZE=+1]HID Light Efficiency[/SIZE]
    [​IMG]One 1000 watt HPS bulb
    puts out as much light as
    111 incandescent 100 watt bulbs.
    One 400 watt MH bulb
    puts out as much light as
    20 fluorescent 40 watt tubes.

    Metal Halide - MH
    Metal halide bulbs produce an abundance of light in the blue spectrum. This color of light promotes plant growth and is excellent for green leafy growth and keeping plants compact. It is the best type of light to be used as a primary light source (if no or little natural sunlight is available). The average lifespan is about 10,000 cumulative hours. The bulb will light up beyond this time but due to the gradual decline of light, it is not worth your while to wait for the bulb to finally burn out. If you compare their lumen (brightness) per unit of energy consumed, metal halides produce up to 125 lumens per watt compared to 39 lumens per watt with fluorescent lights and 18 lumens per watt for standard incandescent bulbs.

    High Pressure Sodium - HPS
    High pressure sodium bulbs emit an orange-red glow. This band of light triggers hormones in plants to increase flowering/budding in plants. They are the best lights available for secondary or supplemental lighting (used in conjunction with natural sunlight). This is ideal for greenhouse growing applications.

    Not only is this a great flowering light, it has two features that make it a more economical choice. Their average lifespan is twice that of metal halides, but after 18,000 hours of use, they will start to draw more electricity than their rated watts while gradually producing less light. HPS bulbs are very efficient. They produce up to 140 lumens per watt. Their disadvantage is they are deficient in the blue spectrum. If a gardener were to start a young plant under a HPS bulb, she/he would see impressive vertical growth. In fact, probably too impressive. Most plants would grow up thin and lanky and in no time you will have to prune your plant back before it grows into the light fixture. The exception to this is using a HPS light in a greenhouse. Sunlight is high in the blue spectrum which would offset any stretching caused by HPS bulbs.

    HID Light Output
    Primary Growing Area
    Supplemental Growing Area
    100 watts
    2' x 2'​
    3' x 3'
    250 watts
    3' x 3'​
    4' x 4'
    400 watts
    4' x 4'​
    6' x 6'
    600 watts
    6' x 6'​
    8' x 8'1000 watts8' x 8'12' x 12'
    HID Lighting Helpful Tips
    .[​IMG]Hanging height: Due to the heat that is emitted from these types of fixtures, you should hang them according to size. Smaller wattage systems (100 and 250) should be hung about 2 to 3 feet from the top of the plants. Medium wattage systems (400 and 600) should be hung around 4 feet from the top of the plants. High wattage systems (1000 and up) should be placed at least 4 to 6 feet from the plant tops.
    .[​IMG]How long should lights run? This depends on the type of plant. Most plants and vegetables need about 10 to 12 hours of light to promote growth. Plants that produce fruits or flowers will show improvement with up to 16 hours a day of supplemental light.​
    [SIZE=+2][SIZE=+1]Fluorescent Lighting [/SIZE][/SIZE]​
    This type of light is perfect for starts and seedlings. They are also popular for growing low-light plants like herbs and African violets. Fluorescent lights are low intensity and need to be placed within 8" (up to 15" for shade loving plants) of the plants to be effective. They are a poor light source for flowering and budding primarily because of their low lumen output.
    [SIZE=+2][SIZE=+1][/SIZE][SIZE=+1]Incandescent Lighting [/SIZE][/SIZE]​
    These lights are also good for starts and seedlings and provide an inexpensive alternative to HID lights, because they do not require a ballast. These lights are only good for individual plants or small groups of plants because of their low lumen output and limited range.

    The Cost to Run a Lighting System
    To get the operating cost per hour for a light, take the lights combined wattage, and divide it by 1000 to get the kilowatts used. Then multiply that number by the amount your electric company charges per kilowatt hour. HID lights will use the number of watts it emits per hour, ie; 600w system will use 600 watts per hour (regardless of spectrum).
    (light wattage output / 1000)xelectricity cost per kilowatt hour = Operating cost per hour
    operating cost per hour x hours used per month = Operating cost per month


    [SIZE=+2][SIZE=+1][/SIZE]How the Sunlight Effects Plant Growth [/SIZE]


    200 - 280 nmUVC ultraviolet range which is extremely harmful to plants because it is highly toxic.280 - 315 nmIncludes harmful UVB ultraviolet light which causes plants colors to fade.315 - 380 nmRange of UVA ultraviolet light which is neither harmful nor beneficial to plant growth.380 - 400 nmStart of visible light spectrum. Process of chlorophyll absorption begins. UV protected plastics ideally block out any light below this range.400 - 520 nmThis range includes violet, blue, and green bands. Peak absorption by chlorophyll occurs, and a strong influence on photosynthesis. (promotes vegetative growth)520 - 610 nmThis range includes the green, yellow, and orange bands and has less absorption by pigments.610 - 720 nmThis is the red band. Large amount of absorption by chlorophyll occurs, and most significant influence on photosynthesis. (promotes flowering and budding)720 - 1000 nmThere is little absorption by chlorophyll here. Flowering and germination is influenced. At the high end of the band is infrared, which is heat.1000+ nm"​
    i qouted this from greenmanspage for you... they had an article on therea bout it. this may help.
     
  6. ahimsa

    ahimsa Senior Member

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    Nice job with the face picture and statements about growing. Wait until you've got your own place. If your mom really didn't mind, you'd ask her to unlock the PC so you could go shopping.

    Not to be hard on you, but you've got a lot to learn about security, researching yourself(you can get internet anywhere), and good places to grow. Also, the setup you'd probably be able to come up with given your parameters would likely be a $ losing proposition compared to just buying the same weight from a dealer.
     
  7. legal_rasta

    legal_rasta Member

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    Agreed. Idk about the pc part though??? The best lights to use are Fluorescent, or HID (most commonly used MH, and HPS***.) you should probably do more research if you can... Idk about this blocker thing..
     
  8. deleted

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    go rip a 400MH unit off a abandoned billboard, break it down and get a coated bulb for MH bulb $ 19.60
    and a or HPS
    $ 52.94.. together Total: $ 72.63 http://www.1000bulbs.com/ShoppingCart.php
    note: purchase from them must be over $20.00, but you can build a bare bone for very little money, find mogul sockets anywhere, and with conversion lamps coming in many different sizes you can fit alot of ballasts.
    the end..



    intended for more than just the OP.. :cheers2:
     
  9. ahimsa

    ahimsa Senior Member

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    Although I know thatt you can build abare bones unit like that, I have the philosopy that you should wear a suit to rob a bank. I mean that you should keep yourself on the up and up as much as possible when growing. It's safer not to mention stealing is wrong.

    Think about it: many small grow busts come because someone had a loud party or got in a fight and the cops came. If you get caught jacking a MH light, the ccops aren''t going to think you're doing some home improvement. Then, there's always the risk that you'll start afire because you don't know your head from your butthole in terms of electricity.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  10. deleted

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    if you get caught jacking a billboard lamp, you should kill yourself..

    I had no idea people we're this dumb when it comes to building a lamp..
    well not everyone can be jon bender..:rolleyes:
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  11. Rocklobster

    Rocklobster Senior Member

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    Funny my first grow lights were street lighting both low and high pressure types sox-son. The orange glowing low pressure sox were top grade bloom lights though.
     
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