Sovereign Citizens

That is complete bullshit.

Sovereign Citizens are the biggest threat to the power structures.

New World Order your my bitch!

Where I differ with most conspiracy people is I know the elite are loosing.

The more they clamp down, the more people will slip though their fingers.

The power that they have is an illusion.

Does that mean that everyone figures it out? No.

But the individual does have the power to break free.

And to the peanut gallery> This is my opinion. I am right, but it is only my opinion.

 

That we can definitely agree with =) (and I'm not even fond of Jews =P)

 

That's been my point all along. And Israel is nothing but a little colonial outpost of the U.S. of A.

 

That means nothing to the people who make the laws.

 

That is what I mean by hidden in plain sight

They take something valid and make it sound silly

Do not get me started on the Bush family in general

They will burn in hell together

 

Jews are brainwashed just like every other religion. However, I do not believe Judaism to be anything other than that: a religion. There is a not Jewish race, contrary to popular belief, and that is perhaps one of the biggest historical misconceptions.

 

Denouncing citizenship for tax reasons is a crime.

Depending on what country you are in, they usually can deport you.

The USA has Federal Marshals living in most counties

 

Denouncing citizenship for moral reasons is acceptable then?

They could gladly exile me

I would not try to fight them

 

People can renounce their citizenship all they want. It doesn't mean they're free from being locked up for the rest of their lives.

It's just like these people that believe they don't have to pay taxes. Yeah, this is true, there is no law saying you have to pay the federal income tax. But just see what happens if you don't. You dig??

 

Well yeah, people will argue all day over whether we control Israel or Israel controls us. It doesn't matter because behind the scenes the same people control both. They create all these diversions and distractions to lead people astray from what is reality, creating all these phony arguments that mean squat.

 

Sure it is fine. But if you have large assets, they will take what they think they are owed or lock you up.

BTW: I still pay US Taxes. However I get every single legal deduction I can. But I have experts take care of that.

I should not have to pay taxes when I do not live in the US or support a fucked up government that the rest of the world needs to grow some balls and tell the US government to fuck off.

 

True. The nature of capital is disparity, mobility, distraction, cooptation, and expansionism.

 

The fact is anyone can be a sovereign citizen.

Anyone can walk away from all USA control.

You will see the news stories of Tax evaders getting busted. Why were they busted?

They were openly vocal to the public at what they were doing. So the government comes in and makes public examples of them.

They are paraded on the media as evil business capitalists. Everyone laughs and just assumes that there is no way to avoid paying taxes.

Meanwhile tens of thousands or more pay no taxes.

They do not fit the profile of a tax evader and they do not do things that flag the tax people. So they will never get caught unless someone they know turns them in.

The big fish are what taxman is looking for.

The only reason I have not thrown away my passport is so can visit my mom and family. Plus the good shopping.

As it is now I am using the same legal techniques that Congressmen and even our current president has used in the past.

But you can be free of the USA or live in freedom right under there noses.

And if the Jews want to think they own me, fine just keep sending me money. There you go, nice Jews.

 

Is it the same thing as this?

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=374123&page=4

(continued on the next page)

 

Pretty much, but I feel kind of stupid now, because even when we were looking into declaring sovereignty, we weren't planning on evading taxes, lol. There's still so much of this that even I'm not sure about yet.

 

I suppose the OP can tell you what he had in mind.

But the totality of the Sovereign Citizen is way beyond the scope of your black and white thread.

But it is a fine thread, none the less.:cheers2:

 

I guess it can be better explored here...and fingers crossed by Wednesday (when I get back to work - therefore back online) I'll be able to read more about it and may even have something to say about it.

Thanks for complimenting the other thread, appreciated.

Glad you got a good laugh earlier, too.

 

You are a month ahead of me...

 

A few, we've been at this since February or April.