Domestic Violence....

Truth.

 

If so, men need to report! No one should suffer violence. Womyn had to break through the shame and barriers to reporting domestic abuse. When men are abused, they need to NOT feel shamed, and report.

I would be happy if the man across the street from me reported the womyn he lives with. Really.

 

Excuse me? Use the "inroads" that women "CREATED"? I think that anyone who has looked into this matter, which you proport to have done, KNOWS that feminists are very opposed to the idea that men can be abused. I posted a link that just shows how much feminists are supportive of men who are abused. They believe that it doesn't exist, that men who are abused have it coming to them. As a result, it was only a few years ago that the local police started reacting to male allegations of abuse equally.

 

Maybe you'd like to explain to me just who the NCADV is? Oh, wait, you're a feminist, so I'll just get more lies.

The NCADV is a feminist organization, and didn't I say something about wasting your time by posting their fabricated and distorted statistics?

 

I hava had domestic violence in my own relationship a couple times. Mostly me being the violent one. I'ts been quite a while since I was like that. I have been working on my anger problems for years.

 

why cant more men be like me . im all for giving a girl a spanking on the ass.only when the girl is happy with same.but its fun for sex. i dont like violence against women. STRANGE but thats me.make love, not war .PEACE lol

 

Yes, jiimaan, all "feminists" think exactly the same (heavy sarcasm.) I think what I want. I beleive that a man CAN be abused (and the stats certainly support that) and those men should report, so the stigma will start to dissapear. No one should be hitting anyone else.

Why do you feel the need to put people into tiny little boxes when, quite clearly you don't fit in one yourself?

You obviously only read the parts of my posts which ONLY support your preconcieved ideas. I have a neighbor who is a MALE victim of spousal abuse. I feel for him just as empathically as I feel for any female victim of abuse. Of course, this (and aobut 65% of the other things I write) is just TOO easy for you to ignore, as it puts me OUTSIDE your little control freak, name calling box.

 

You use the word "FEMINIST" as if it had only one meaning, and that you can apply it as an insult. (Like Republicans apply "Liberal" to anyone they don't like and assume everyone who doesn't agree with them fits in their neat little boxes.)

NCADV is a "feminist" organizataion? Just WHO do you expect to do at least some of the some of the work against violence. Pro Incest Pro Wife beating groups?

 

How can you BLAME feminists for local cops falling down on the job??? They are trained to treat all alligations of abuse and they have policies on how to do so. Around here they haul usually the guy, but not always my friend, off to jail and they ask the sig other if he/she would like help. They can take them out of the home then and there. Most often this doesn't happen, and they leave pamplets with information and numbers to call for the victim. If your "local" police were not doing this for the men as well as the women well then the fault lies with your local police and thier policies, not with feminists. If this back woods bible belt southern town treats alligations of abusive from men as equally as they do women, then your town ought to be able to do the same!! I consider myself a feminists (which is rare for around here lol) and I would never laugh off a man being physically, mentally, or emtionally abused anymore than I would a woman. I agree with the woman who posted to say that all feminists do NOT think alike. Please don't stigmatize the majority with the opinions of a few.

 

I'd say just about all feminists are on the same page in this regard; there are a few women, however, that are more objective, but those who make their objectivity public, get denounced and even receive threatening anonymous phone calls from irrate feminists.

You see, you're doing it again. You state that men should report incidents of domestic violence, but when they do but feminists denounce them, and men's rights groups make an issue of it, you consider them to be "pro incest, pro wife-beating".

The issue here is not that men don't report domestic violence, but:

1) That they do, and aren't taken seriously.
2) That the statistics are downplayed or ignored by feminists.
3) That feminists make excuses for domestic violence against men.

Kapeesh?

 

It has nothing to do with the fact that the police weren't doing their job, but that they were forced to adopt a policy on domestic violence based on feminist theories on domestic violence--ie., that women were essentially the only victims of domestic violence. How this came about, I don't know; that's just the way is was until a few years ago, as I stated earlier.

 

Do you know anything about the law??? Police don't sit around and say heyyyy that sounds like a good idea! Let's "adopt" THAT policy!! No, no, policies are usually "adopted" by the city council. They vote on what will be passed into city ordinance. I highly doubt that feminism has somehow corrupted your entire city council. Anyone who has been around the block more than once knows that men ARE abused just as women are. I think anyone with half a lick of sense knows that women are most certainly not the "ONLY victims of domestic violence" as you put it. What about the children??? Are they not victims too?? I do not wish to argue with you, you are most certainly entitled to your opinion, just as I am. Please know that not all "feminists" believe that men are not victims of domestic abuse. There are tooooo many victims of abuse period in our country. For that I feel ashamed. But I will never feel shamed to be a feminist. There is nothing wrong with discovering the strength within yourself and your gender as a whole. For wanting equality where there was none before. I hope that since you feel so very strongly about male domestic abuse, that you will advocate on thier behalfs. Maybe you can begin to make a change in your area. Good luck to you!

 

You are wrong. You don't know enough womyn, well enough to make this assesment. Your own "agenda" evidently prevents you from doing this.

"The feminists feel......." is a silly statement. I know many womyn who consider themselves feminists, and I don't know any who think a man cannot be abused. Each of these womyn makes her own decisions about things like this. I don't know where your "radical feminists" are, but I know few of them. No, that makes them fall outside your little box.

 

Sorry, but when I read the same old misandristic bs on feminist websites and in feminist "literature," it starts to become quite evident what feminists think and feel about violence against men. Are you trying to tell me that all of that which feminists write doesn't actually reflect their beliefs?!?!? You have got to be joking. Like I said, feminists are pretty much on the same page on this one--that's a simple truth, not my being narrow-minded or anything. If it wasn't the truth then obviously it would be reflected in the attitudes of women's groups, wouldn't?

 

I always enjoy your posts

 

You got really low standards, then.

 

Thank you, apaininyourbrain! I am enjoying yours, too! You make a lot of sense.

Well, you seem to think I am a "radical feminist." YET, I don't hold your preconcieved beleifs about "feminists" on this matter (ie, I feel strongly that men can be victims and that they should report their attackers and get justice) SOOOOOOO, If a "radical feminist" (LOL) like me thinks this, your entire preposition about "feminists" in thinking they all think exactly the same, is completely wrong.

I am done with this issue.

I'll let the stats speak.

 

Like I said you make yourself out to be all concerned about men who are victims of domestic violence, but when men's rights groups make an issue of it, you call them "pedophiles" and the like. You're not fooling anyone by making yourself out to be sympathetic to men.

Incidently, I've come across very little "feminist" literature that expresses any sincere concern for the fact that men are the victims of domestic violence, too. The ladies who wrote this literature consider themselves feminists, but something tells me that you wouldn't. I base this on the hysterical, sometimes abusive, responses that you've made when I've posted opinions inspired by these ladies.

You're done with the issue because you know you're a hypocrite and can't this (or any) discussion with me.

 

iiaajmn, you know this is a woman's forums right. I don't know why you have to bring men's issues into all the time when someone posts about a problem women have.

You seem to really hate women for some reason, which is fine I guess, but why do you have to turn every thread here into a defense of men? Just because we are talking about men being viloent with their wives doesn't mean we think so badly of men that they need defending. We just want to talk about an issue that is important to women. Regardless if things like traffic deaths pale in comparison...

 

NO, you weren't paying attention and read what you wanted. I never called legitimate men's right's groups pedophiles. I called so called "Father's Right's Groups" which endorsed incest and misogyny pedophiles. Legitimate Men's Right's Groups do exist, and they do not rely on the hatred of womyn or the blaming of womyn to operate.

I don't care if you don't beleive me. I feel for my neighbor, who is abused by his wife and for all partners in his condition.