Yay, the Leader of the taliban in afghanistan is dead

I know I'm gonna be jumped on for being happy about this, and that someone else will take his place, but it's a step in the right direction :cheers2:..

Peace

 

I thought it was pakistan.

unless they got both in the space of two days.

in which case. damn, nice.

 

Just like eliminating Saddam was a step in the right direction? *laughs*

Whoever winds up in charge will undoubtedly use this act as a way to make a name for himself

 

You might be right, I could have gotten my 'stans' mixed up sorry for that..

Peace

 

Don't worry, they're all the same anyways. Goddamn terrorists. Glad to see another one dead! Hooray for the death of people! Maybe the world will stop being such an evil place now.

 

Yeah I was wrong it was pakistan, still a good thing..

Peace

 

Now, what really matters

how many people who weren't involved in killing innocent people had to die for this?

 

Who is innocent in this life?

Nobody

That is who

 

Killing leaders in a guerrilla type war is meaningless.

You kill one, and another emerges just as easily.

 

Hmmm, I think i said someone else will take his place..

Peace

 

I'm sorry, I didn't read your post. They are usually really dumb so I've learned to avoid reading them in general.

 

No worries, you seem to post in them all anyway, be well..

Peace

 

Who cares?

Anytime one is killed, another one is put in the same place.

It's stupid the way the media makes a big deal out of this shit.

Yeah, I know it's been said. I am saying it again.

 

Okay, this sentiment has been made many times


I'm going to disagree with this on a single premise

the war on organized crime in the united states

whever we remove a leader, it has been effective in doing nothing but bringing forth a new leader, you are right

but, the problem is, that the old leader is usually in his position because he earned it through being a useful lieutenant, and often, this includes more

bureaucratic? duties during peacetime.



when you decapitate a guerrilla movement during wartime you are promoting lieutenants again

but these are lieutenants who have gotten field promotions, promotions for doing wartime things


we're not getting bureaucrats anymore. we're getting people who can mobilize public support for their movement, or who can plan military ops.


either way, we were better off with the old guy.

undermining, better thing to do.














tl;dr My argument is, that, yes, it does make a difference, a bad one.

 

Well actually, it usually makes a slightly good difference because it demoralizes the enemy.

Leaders are leaders for a reason.

So, I disagree.

 

this is like putting away the head of the latin kings

doesnt do anything


who the fuck cares

 

Average at best.

Too many Beatles references and references to his other movies in his movies to begin with.

 

i disagree,death of a leader does not demoralize a culture that looks at him as a martyr.. IMO, this will only serve to reinforce not only their will but their ability to recruit.

 

Exactly, Bill.

 

A leader is still a leader, especially in organized guerrillas.

I should clarify though, since nothing is that black and white.

A death of an ideological leader would cause just what yo say... martyrdom and a reinforcement of the will to fight and recruitment.

A death of a military leader, on the other hand, demoralizes and weakens an enemy.

But all in all, leaders are often targeted because it disturbs the leadership chain. Potential leaders are more frightened to become leaders because their likelihood of survival goes down tragically once they assume the position. Still, it's far from the most affective form of warfare.

But yet again, I don't believe in a moral war. If it was up to me, places would simply be bombed out of existence for the sake of peace.

 

Crackshot sniper kills Taliban warlord from one mile away

Corporal Christopher Reynolds shot the high profile Afghan drug baron dead during ferocious fighting, notching up the longest range confirmed kill in Afghanistan.

The 25-year-old waited on a shop rooftop in southern Afghanistan for three days to take out the top-level Taliban commander - called Musa - who co-ordinated dozens of attacks against British and US soldiers.

Cpl Reynolds, of 3 Scots, The Black Watch, has already killed 32 other Taliban fighters during some of the hardest fighting of the Afghan campaign.

His comrade, Sergeant Daniel Buist, carried out another amazing attack on the Taliban. He killed one of their snipers - who spoke with a Birmingham accent - who was shooting from a tiny hole in a wall more than half a mile away.

Cpl Reynolds, from Dalgety Bay, in Fife, took out his target from more than 1500 metres away. He said: "We were in a bazaar in Babaji for days in some very heavy fighting and had taken up a position on a shop roof to observe the surrounding area. From the first few minutes after we landed, we came into contact with the enemy.

"We were taking fire all the time. We were observing down the valley and I saw a group of five Taliban. I identified one straightaway as the commander because I watched him through the scope and when he spoke on the radio, the other one would do what he said.

"I saw that he had a weapon, an AK47. We did all the calculations for range, windspeed and all that. I have to admit the first round landed next to him. We were so far away that he didn't even realise he was being shot at.

"We changed our aim and when I took into account different factors like the trajectory of the bullet, my gun scope was actually aiming at the top of a doorway. I fired and the bullet went off, coming down and hitting him in the chest.

"He dropped straight away into the arms of a fighter behind him. The guy just panicked and dropped the leader and ran away.

"He had been given a lead sleeping tablet. I was quite proud of that shot - it is the longest recorded kill in Afghanistan. I am going to use that fact as a chat-up line in the pub when I get back home."

Lance Corporal David Hatton, 20, from Castlemilk, serves alongside Cpl Reynolds. He said: "We had been in position for three days when he made that shot. I was the spotter on that job and I was giving him the information about the target.

"He did a top job that day - but we are all sick about him going on about it and telling us what a great shot he is."

Another Scots soldier in the same unit, Sergeant Daniel Buist, carried out another amazing feat using a state-of-the-art Javelin missile launcher which costs pounds 70,000 each time its fired. Sergeant Buist used his Javelin to kill a sniper who was shooting through a tiny hole half a mile away in the bandit country around Babaji.

He said: "The guy was getting more accurate with every shot and his bullets were starting to land among my guys' feet. We could hear through our communications gear that he was speaking English at times. It was thought that he could have been a Brit as he may have had what sounded like a Brummie accent.

"We got in touch with our snipers who told us that he was using a wall with a hole dug through it, to shoot at us. He had made a mistake when he fired and a puff of smoke appeared from the wall. I could see the shape of his head and shoulders and the outline of his gun.

"I fired and the missile went straight through the hole that the Taliban had cut out the wall to fire from.

"It was a real bullseye. The missile never even did any damage to the other wall - it just took out our target.

"A patrol later went to the position and confirmed the kill. There was nothing left but a lot of blood and rags. The remains had been dragged away by other Taliban. It can be gruesome but I had to stop that guy from taking out my men."

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