Y I would never want 2 have a daughter

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by undefeated, Mar 25, 2009.

  1. KJ69

    KJ69 Visitor

    No, what you are talking about isn't protection - it is control and intimidation. Your daughter would hate and fear you if you took this approach. A bad man? No, I don't think so. Misguided, maybe. Maybe you were brought up to think this approach would work with a girl. It won't. As soon as she thinks she is safe from you, she is going to party like it's 1999. She's more likely to become the campus whore than a prude.

    You have to give her knowledge and understanding. Teach her about risks and consequences to actions. That is your best shot. That's the mature way to deal with another human being that is not your slave or your personal property. The super-authoritative jerk approach works only for toddlers who can't understand anything more sophisticated.
     
  2. Vanilla Gorilla

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    It's a bizarre symptom of the human condition that when people become parents they either pretend to forget or do forget what they were like as teens.

    Parents are just the sandbox, provide a stable home and nice things etc. Kids are just as much likely to learn from their parents not what to do as they are what to do. Parents will always be from a different / older generation, kids are always going to assume the parents are clueless in regards to dealing with their generation. Always easier for the kid to blame the parent for their own inadequacies rather than blaming themselves.

    If some 14 yr olds want to fuck, they are going to fuck, and the parents are going to be the last to know, in fact 14 yr old that does that right under the parents nose is going to think their parents are super thick for not being able to pick up on it, and thus stop listening to them with other things.

    I really dont agree with the Daddys little girl / Princess thing, thats how most of the female population gets oppressed, its more likley to result in the type of girl with little or no experience with men, marries/gets pregnant to the first guy that touches here, she ends up the boring cookie baking housewife who gets dumped at 40 for a younger model then spends the rest of her life loveless cos she never learned how to interact with guys.

    Its the girls that where slightly more promiscous in teens, interacted with far more guys, became far more confident around guys that grow up to rule the world
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Not going to work for the toddlers either, in fact have the opposite effect, train her far earlier than any other girl to make puppy dog eyes, or any other looks or behaviours that calm down a big scary guy, Dont have to tell you what thats going to turn into when they start thinking about sex, and sexual prime target is big scary guys
     
  4. KJ69

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    You can't reason with a toddler. She can't fully understand why it is a very bad idea to play out in the middle of a busy street. The parent just has to make sure it doesn't happen. When she is a little older, she can grasp on a basic level a verbal explanation of big, heavy cars killing and seriously injuring humans. Toddlers don't even grasp the concept of death. They think it is like in a cartoon, where the coyote gets killed in one scene and is back chasing the Roadrunner after the commercial.

    Fortunately, by the time she reaches puberty, the girl is going to be aware that actions involve risks and consequences. What she needs at that point is honest facts.
     
  5. Fischanado

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    I'm sorry, but your custom title "super-horny milf" tells me what I don't want to know. Once again, I'm sorry for this outburst, but I think I would have problems for taking advice on sexual issues from someone like that. If I didn't mention it now, I would propably have mentioned it later in the thread anyway.

    Eeeek! :piggy:
     
  6. KJ69

    KJ69 Visitor

    Obviously, you have no sense of humor. Do you think this is some kind of super-serious academic forum? We have our serious moments, but the rest is bullshit.

    The world will always be full of prudes, because they only listen to other prudes.
     
  7. undefeated

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    i guess that does pretty much sums it up

    i just know us boys growing up do this to othere people daughters and when the tables r turned and your now the father that your not going 2 want boys 2 do the same thing 2 your daughter that u did 2 other fathers daughters as a kid

    mayb this is just the way it is for any guy -all in all---its just a vicious circle in life
     
  8. Boogie_Boy

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    Ingredients for promiscuity:

    1. Loss of traditional family values.

    2. No respect for parental authority.

    3. Lack of parenting skills.

    4. Lack of religiosity.

    Children have no rights. If a child wants to get themselves into adult trouble, they can leave mommy and daddy.
     
  9. sunfighter

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    My daughter is almost 16. I care very much about her happiness, but I don't care very much about her virginity. I care about her health, so I care about the quality of her sex education and whether she's prepared to use a condom. I care about her emotional readiness to make decisions about sex. And I recognize that 16 is about the age when a girl can make informed decisions.

    Your concerns seem to come from an anti-sex attitude and a double standard.
     
  10. Vanilla Gorilla

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    You dont think it has anything to do with libido, You think everyone has the same libido?
     
  11. KJ69

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    Social environment plays a major role too. During my high school years, my father tried to be strict with my older sister, but she always found a way to do everything that her friends at school did.

    Boogie Boy is just trying to lure you in and fuck around with you. He posts random things to provoke controversy. I think we may have both fallen for that trick in this thread.
     
  12. undefeated

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    well if it wouldnt bother u - thats great. u must b a good man of patience and acceptence . i on the other would accept it--just not b happy w/ it. idk y?

    double standard -mayb--though if i had a son i wouldnt want him to have sex till he was mature enough.

    anti-sex--HELL NO! thats a misinterpretation on your part.
    I just most fathers r anit-sex when it comes 2 there daughters--thats just a fact of life. or else i myself and many other guys wouldn't b constantly in the hot seat when "talking" w/ their fathers
     
  13. Om Organizer

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    Learn English.
     
  14. nldn

    nldn Senior Member

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    It's never easy being a parent, and the shortening of childhood is a sad thing to me. Not only having to think about the possibility of 12 and 13 year olds having sex, there are issues such as drugs and alcohol to consider too. Children see the adult world far too soon.
     
  15. dollyfizz

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    I think that can be interpreted as being slightly offensive. I think I understand the intention, but its delivery doesn't make much sense.

    Islamic Extremism are the beliefs and doings of violent activists. Much though that I agree that the original poster has views that are unreasonable and even potentially inhumane, I don't think he is a terrorist. I agree with what you said (obviously bar the part I'm highlighting) and I wonder if perhaps what you were saying was that the thoughts of the original poster are Islamic? If so, I just want to say they're not. Islam doesn't believe in sex before marriage. That's all there is to it. Unfortunately there are a small minority that put a bad name to it, such as those families who take matters into their own hands when it comes to premarital women engaging in sexual acts. Islam just believes that your body is a temple and it should be respected and preserved until you are married, and that your body is the greatest gift you could ever give to your married partner alone. Parents generally feel like they may have failed if they can't install this belief in their child since it is their job to educate them, but should also understand that the sin is comitted by those who sin. (Like anyone really- If their children do something they don't believe in or something they consider to be harmful, the parent blames themself.) Anyone who repels against those that choose to do these 'illegal' things quite frankly bases their values on culture and tradition and hasn't read the Qur'an properly. Most other world religions have the same belief- don't have sex before marriage. So, Muslims don't believe in premarital sex, but Extremism is practically a different barbaric and fucked up religion all together. If however that isn't what you were saying and I still don't understand (or jumped the gun!) then apologies to you.

    Anyway- re. the OP, if you educate your daughter and earn her respect and trust, you'll be able to manipulate her in a sensible way to not having sex before she is ready. Providing she is safe, clean and doesn't end up too young and pregnant (or worse- catch an STD) then where's the worry? If you teach her well enough then she'll hopefully end up in a relationship with a boy that even you can trust to be with her. There are plenty more issues I'd worry about regarding young teens before sensible sex.

    I also wonder how you think a mother should feel? And would you feel about your son?
     
  16. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    What a general statement! I have never once used that term regarding the topic at hand.
     
  17. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    You know, one thing we can say about you is that you are honest. You admit to feeling and believing things that are very unpopular in this day and age and you don't apologize for it. I can't say I agree with even half of your views, but if nothing else, you stick to your guns.
    I think what concerns so many of us is your apparent total reliance on your emotions in these matters, when these events in your daughter's life should not be about you, but about her needs.
    I get it. You can't help how you react. Just try your best to weigh the consequences, not based on your feelings, but using logic, reasoning and your best judgment. There's a difference. You need to go find it- hopefully before you decide to procreate. For her sake and for yours. I say this with respect and the best of intentions. Cross my heart.
     
  18. Peter Popper

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    i wouldnt want a slut of a daughter.
    i would teach them morals.
    girls in this world that fuck aroung unfortanuatly for them are sluts, and they can get pregnant.
    fact is men can do it and its ok. and can fuck off.
    it sounds bad, but isnt it the truth? yep
     
  19. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    Aaaaand now it's all fucked up. :rolleyes:
    I'm out, brother. I'm not even gonna play.
    Have a nice life.
     
  20. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Effects long term with just about everything are the opposite of short term goals.

    The "slutty" girls, there might be negative consequences in teen years, but they all grow up being a lot better at controlling guys
     

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