dpt 45mg

lmao, your mom sounds like a cool lady

thanks brother

 

Hmm, considering how intense it was for you at 25 mg, and at 100 mg (and considering some courageous psychonauts go up to 300), would you say that the MORE you take effects you less? (I don't know the exact terminology for that). Or looking back on these reports, would you say that it was exaggerated a bit?

 

Mr. Writer is the come-up reminiscent of any other psychedelics you've tried?? DPT interests me greatly but from what I've read the come-up is extravengantly hard even if you do not have problems with letting go of your ego. Even though I have everyday anxiety problems LSD, shrooms, and other psychs have never bothered me because as you said the negative anxiety is directly proportional to your ability to let go, something I've never had trouble with.
However. I have heard that DPT's anxiety level is extraordinary and can make for a hard time even if you have the right mindset. This scares me because my everyday panic attacks, which I have difficulty controlling because of biological reasons can really be dangerous if they get out of hand. Is blasting off on DPT similar to DMT come-up anxiety but longer? or a new beast entirely?

 

MMT: Less means more bad stuff. More means less bad stuff. When you take more, there simply comes a point, very quickly, where there is no one to judge "good" or "bad". If you dont do enough, you are not killed, and so you go through the hell of surviving DPT.

happiness: very similar to DMT, obviously much longer. Smoked DMT come up is like 30 seconds, DPT insufflated comeup is an hour. In some ways this makes it easier though, since you have a lot more time to get ready. also, its not bad every single time. its only going to suck your first time, or first 2 times or so. youll figure it out quickly, "Ah, this is the good part "

 

Hmm, I know I'll get criticism from at least a few people, but perhaps maybe take a mg of xanax an hour before you trip, espeically if you get panic attacks. I know people will say "no he should deal with it, the xanax will just numb the experience", well considering how anxiety ridden the come up is, to avoid risking a panic attack a mg of xanax would definitely help alot, but barely enough at all to numb the DPT experience, considering how strong it is.

 

Yeah I was thinking maybe kratom would be a good medium (though once the DPT kicked in the kratom would be a waste) or maybe have a benzo ready in case. I have never used benzos with other psychs because I didn't need them and a little anxiety is worth a more open experience. I would never take a benzo for DMT simply because I'm sure it would keep me from breaking through.
I guess my question to MMT and Mr. Writer is: Do you think if I did have an attack on the come-up would it persist during the peak??? Is DPT so powerful at stripping ego and reality that there would be no "me" to have anxiety??? I know with DMT that reality becomes such an illusion there is no ego there to panic.

 

this is what happens. that and the fact that its the most cosmically orgasmic experience you can never imagine.

It won't do shit dude, and god damn you for even thinking that. Stop jumping to benzos, you do it in so many posts, and every time it makes me worry for you so much, not just out of the benzo habituation direction, but from the "youre missing the entire point of all this" direction.

Did you ever think, just once, "You know what, I'm going to get through this, and I'm not going to stupefy myself to do it. I, as I am right now, have everything and am everything i need to get through this."

I think that all your perceived problems about yourself stem from this strange assumption that you are not strong enough to do these things. You worry so much about failure. You don't understand that you are creating your failure before even trying.

You want to touch god but "just in case i get teh willies!!" youre wondering if you should stupefy yourself first? Why not just shoot heroin before you smoke DMT, that way theres no any anxiety at all, amirite?

My harsher words are only revealed when they are needed most, out of love. Wake up brother. Stop selling yourself short and thinking you are too weak and too stupid to realize your full potential.

 

hopefuly i can get some dpt soon. i want to try it but at the same time im sort of nervous/scared about it because of some of the physical effects. like the extreme heart pounding, that just doesnt sound safe to me.

 

Thank you SO MUCH for that. And I mean it. I have had this feeling about myself for a while, how I can't handle things and how I always worry about failure. I'm about to do a K-hole in about 30 minutes, I will definitely remember these important words during my journey. Definitely one of the most eye opening things someone has ever told me before, in MY LIFE.

 

I'm pretty sure that's just a feeling.
Someone from around here (Don't remember who) had a sitter measure their heart rate when they felt it pounding hard and fast and it was only around 90 bpm. That's not a dangerous heart rate.

 

:_) glad you understand

is this your first k hole? have fun

i had my heart rate measured during come up and it was a little faster but nothing crazy. med student i was with was not worried at all.

 

I haven't had mine measured but did not find that be be an issue during my few exerpiences. The comeup was rough and more intense than anything I've done, but I didn't notice any issues with my heartrate.

EDIT: and about the xanax. I'll admit I sometimes take them after a trip when all I'm left with is residual stimulation. Some may disagree with this as well, but often I don't have the extra 4 hours of stimulation after a 2c-i trip(for example) is over but before/during a trip is defeating the purpose.

 

100 mg wasn't enough for a k-hole, though I think it was more like 70 mg. It did get very very interesting, however I think I'll go for a 200 mg dose next time to ensure a k-hole.

 

My heart rate was 103 bpm on a 250 dose. Dont worry about that, but you probably will. I experienced come up anxiety only the first time I did it at a 150-160mg dose. And I have done it about 20 times. I cant snort stuff without gagging now though, I dont know if I will ever snort DPT again, last time I did it, I vommited right after snorting. Im shootin to shoot it. I think this will be the best ROA. I have just been putting off getting a needle from the internet because I dont want to drive to the hood.

 

Just thought I would add this here. Do NOT,...NOT NOT NOT mix shrooms with DPT. AFOAF learned a very important lesson when he did this. He was bored on the shroom trip, and wanted more...instead of seeing what the trip had in store for him, he threw caution to the wind and dosed DPT. The combination can only be described as poisonous. (his words...not mine obviously) He experienced a horrible poisoned feeling, with all kinds of terrifying heart problems that he did not normally experience on DPT alone. You've been warned.

 

4-ho-dmt + dpt would be stupifically intense and if you're going to combine 2 powerful ego killers you wanna take a small dose of each, as their effects will probably be multiplative rather than additive. i can tell you the difference between small bowl DMT and small bowl DMT while on AMT is night and day. tryptamines are one.

 

Yes, when mixing anything you should assume that 1+1 does not equal 2 but rather 3 etc etc. According to my FOAF, this was not a matter of unexpected potentiation, this was a matter of "these two don't combine well at any dose and never will." My FOAF was on a + trip of shrooms (1 gram, not particularly potent, and did a "moderate dose of DPT, this was ~6 years ago, so not sure of dose, but not anything extreme by any means).

Even with moderate dosing, the experience, he says, was HELLISH. Everything poisoned, heart beating slow, then fast...life feeling like it was slipping away. He took ~4mg's xanax hoping to die in his sleep rather than in agony. He thanked the Creator when, much to his astonishment he awoke the next morning.

 

im gonna try dpt + 4-aco-dmt in the near future.

 

I will? Who's been hacking into my account and posting . . .

 

wtf....? lol.