I was chatting with a mate on facebook today about this guy we knew when we were in the army. Well actually I shagged him a few times but.. Anywho he was a pretty terriffic bloke and pretty shit hot in bed, he'd said at the beginning he wasn't looking for a relationship but after spending a bit of time with him I was starting to think it was my loss. So after a few nights we finished on pretty good terms. The thing about the army was that everybody knew everybody elses businness even though I asked him to be discrete I fully expected everybody to know when we got back to camp. But this guy was so secretive, and I wasn't telling anyone cause I'd broken my own rule about not shagging anyone on camp. Anywho nearly a year later I'm drinking with a few mates, and one of them blurts out that she'd shagged him. Someone else had been making jokes about him being gay he didn't have a gf and nobody ever saw him with any women. So then another one of my mates blurted out that she'd shagged him as well, and so on untill we realised that of the 8 of us there he'd shagged 5. Everybody said the same thing it lasted a few nights he said he didn't want a relationship and he wanted to keep it a secret. In my case he hadn't really had to encourage me cause like I said I'd always said I wouldn't shag anybody on camp. So at first we got pissed although as we thought about it he was a good guy. Probably the only one any of us had met in the army that could keep a secret from his mated about who they were shagging. Any other bloke would have boasted to eveyone he met about shagging another squaddie. There was one slightly creepy aspect to it he was given to taking knickers as souvineers. When he whipped mine of me (I was in a really good mood) I kind of figured they might end up in a drawer with a load of other womens but I didn't realise how big the drawer would have to be and that they would be filled with my mates. Anywho anybody else ever come across a guy like this. Secretive not given to boasting or kiss and tell. In all the blokes I've met I never even heard of anyone like him. When I think about it now I'm even more curious...
i wish i could use lingo like you do.... i dig that word "blokes" hahah. but i mean there's this one dude who i've been friends with for a long time that we keep it a secret just because he has a kid and the baby's mamma (who he's now with again) would freak out. he told her the first time, and she did freak.. but now we don't tell her because we don't want that to happen again.
Thats one thing I never got, why you girls are so clueless about this. It was never the guys you have to worry about, its ceratin sections of the sisterhood. So yes, thats what you have to come to realise, just becuase you are a girl, doesnt mean you know shit about girls. Your entire life most of them have been lying their ass off to you. Dont worry, guys are just as bad with other guys. But wait, it gets worse than that, think back to high school and how popular a girl that had a hot Dad was (*giggles)
Not every guy is going to up and throw away what he said he would not do. Also bragging about who he slept with is probably not the top on his list of things to do ~. And probably serves no purpose to him. Actually Probably better for him not to. Since you do referr to him sleeping with most of the woman around you lol. Being able to keep his word, has no meaning to suggest he is not activley seeking woman to fill his needs. Sounds like he was straight up on saying that he was not looking anything long term as well. Not like he lied or anything.
I get that not bragging probably kept him off the radar, when he tried it on with me I was kind of shocked, like I said I kind of thought he was gay. It kind of threw me off kilter.. I get men wanting to sleep with lots of women but what was with him being so intend on shagging women he served with? Honestly the only thing that really leaves me with a bad taste is the whole keeping knickers as a kind of souvineer. anywho the more I think about it the more I find it harder to form some firm opinion on the whole relationship.
If you open your legs to someone who isn't after a relationship then don't whine about who else he screws, or where your knickers end up for that matter. You gave them to him, he made it clear it was casual, your mates obviously did the same as you. I don't see the deal
Kinda agree with the post bluntly as it is. Theres probably a simple solution to it, its just alot are over thinking it. Chances are he probably doesn't have the knickers now anyway and it prolly trailed off to some bet or joke that was going on. But other then that, its not like he lied on the intent. He may have slept with more women, that wasn't part of the service. Its sounds more into people finding a common interest for the night. Quite sure he asked women who have just said no, and just leaved it at that as well. Only problems I would see if he decided not to "ask" and it wasn't a mutual thing~. This was not the case however, according to what ya said. Again I think its being over thought about a tad. Most times the simplest solution is the true one.
I think maybe you should reflect on that, why exactly the "bad taste"? The knickers thing, its kind of a trophy, may comes off a bit neanderthal, but it means you were prized enough for him to do that, better being you than the girl he didnt make the effort with, or didnt want a reminder trophy. What I mean by that is, is it something you actually object to, or is it just something your feel you should object to cos people your whole life have been telling you that kind of thing is supposed to be wrong?
Ahm having a poor opinion of a bloke keeping women's knickers as a kind of trophy isn't some societal hangup, it is actually quite creepy on a number of levels. The idea that I should feel "prized" because he wanted to keep them well that's interesting, but I'm not a fucking raffle winning... That whole aspect of it was rather tacky, though keeping knickers as a trophy is something I've encountered with other blokes as well. I suppose its something to do with womens underwear becomeing so sexualised an object...anywho who knows
I actually hate when women leave shit just trying to get me in trouble with my girlfriend if I had one at the time ;(
So... someone taking your knickers is creepy, but you leaving your knickers with the intention of putting someone in a jam is funny? That's fucked. I was going to post an actual response, but now...:nopity:
If you suspect you're shagging a bloke that has a gf well why not. Although I do think that women use undies as a kind of sexual utility item as well.
The raffle winning comment seems to suggest you are peeved that you were treated like an object, and yet the you are on about the knickers. This is why both sexes get confused about each other, guys hear this kind of story and are perplexed why keep the knickers is such a big deal. On one hand they hear a girl complain about the knickers being taken and thats creepy and on the other hand other girls taking a mouthful of jizz licking it off thier fingers and smiling, but thats not creepy. Not saying thats you but sometimes the same girl Hence the confusion, stolen knickers creepy, mouthful of jizz, smile and giggle?? When really its just the thought of your knickers in the draw along with all the other girls, at first you thought you were special, but then you found the metaphorical notch on the gun handle. And I could give a vice versa examples as what confuses girls about guys, but this post is already long enough. In summary, just say whats really pissing you off in the first place
Well there are a few issues with it (I actually get the sense you have a few as well) I know guys like muptiple sexual partners but in his case he chose to stay below the radar and shag women he was working with (the majority of women he was working with) women who were also his friends. So why did he do that? he was a fairly handsome guy he wouldn't have had any problem pulling women down town. As for the knickers thing, yeah I know they're sexualised and yeah I know when I gave them to him he considered them to be a kind of trophy it's something a lot of guys are into. But again it comes down to the fact that he a drawer full of knickers belonging to women that he'd shagged who were also his friends and colleagues.
What's wrong with shagging lots of women? Why do you hate this guy so much... is it because he actually kept things quiet on his end and you blabbed on yours? Is it because you thought you had found some wonderful hot guy, but he didn't want you enough to stay with only you? Is it because he doesn't fit the normal jerk profile, but you need some way to wedge him in their so you freak about a pair of underwear that YOU GAVE HIM and that, to your knowledge, haven't been used in any nasty or creepy way. Don't hate, congratulate. But you think it's FUNNY to actively try and sabotage people's relationships... if you "suspect a bloke has a gf" why wouldn't you ask him about it, or better yet not sleep with him!? Whatever, closed minds are fun... you never have to go outside
Like I said at the beginning I still have some regard for this guy, and the my reason for posting is mainly I want other peoples opinions on what happened. We ended the relationship on pretty good terms so me having some ill feeling towards him on that regard isn't happening. I think you've brought your own baggage to bear for whatever reason, as for whats wrong with shagging lots of women, I don't know I suppose it's up to the individual. Like I said my sole problem with him was the way in which he methodically set out to shag his way through his friends and colleagues, if you consider that to be close minded well again it's up to the individual.