Ethics = completely pointless

Discussion in 'Ethics' started by edyb123, Dec 19, 2008.

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  1. Tsurugi_Oni

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    If you don't think there's a meaning to life you guys must of never had a truly spiritual experience.

    You think that this inifinite existence is here for no reason? The spiritual nature of existence is also a secular.

    Peace, love, joy, serenity. We've been given tools to magnify these inborn feelings 1000x beyond what most people allow themselves to feel. Understanding ourselves, our place in our world, and how to magnify this internal joy is our true purpose.

    It's almost comparable to being on your deathbed your whole life and then reaching perfect health. That is the difference in joy between people who are average and those who know deeply the gifts of our bodies. Once you get a teasing drop of the unlimited joy that is the very nature of our being, from the peak of that bliss the average will seem like being sick.
     
    Tsurugi_Oni, Aug 12, 2009
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  3. Stabby

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    We aren't here for any specific reason, thus life has no inherent meaning or purpose. Only that which we give it.
     
    Stabby, Aug 12, 2009
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  5. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    You kind of indicated that you were irritated by my use of winks, so I've been trying to accommodate you by not using them when I speak to you.
     
    OlderWaterBrother, Aug 12, 2009
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  7. Hoatzin

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    I think that was Okiefreak, not me, but either way, it's not like they did anything more than complement all the other irritating things about you.
     
    Hoatzin, Aug 13, 2009
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  9. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    Indeed. Instant gratification is unrewarding. Context plays a big part in it. But it's complicated because, while the joy we experience as a result of producing some great work of art at 30 might be greater than the joy we experience from spinning round really fast at 5, that may only be true from the point of view of the 30 year old.
     
    Hoatzin, Aug 13, 2009
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  11. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Life is a "migration of static patterns (natural laws) toward Dynamic Quality."
    "Biological evolution can be seen as a process by which weak Dynamic forces at a subatomic level discover stratagems for overcoming huge static inorganic forces at a subatomic level." - Robert Pirsig

    So, the purpose of life is to defeat static laws such as the law of gravity, as in the limited movement of cells, the more animated animals, the flight of birds, and rocket ships to the moon. This is the ultimate ethical goal. That which attempts to archive that goal is biologically ethical, that which opposes it is not.

    Onto the layer of biological ethics are built the other ethical systems, such as sexual ethics, social, religious, national, group, corporate ethics, and so on.

    "not just life, but everything, is an ethical activity." "The 'Laws of Nature' are moral laws....if chemistry professors are moral...and if chemistry professors exercise choice, and chemistry professors are composed exclusively of atoms, then it follows that atoms must exercise choice too."- Pirsig again.
     
    MeAgain, Aug 13, 2009
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  13. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Not you?
    Sure seems like you said something about not liking them but maybe I was mistaken. ;)
     
    OlderWaterBrother, Aug 13, 2009
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