2C-E: Easily as Good as Acid.

Discussion in 'The Psychedelic Experience' started by Apollyphelion, Aug 16, 2009.

  1. Apollyphelion

    Apollyphelion Member

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    In a way, the title of this thread is almost commercial in nature, a bold statement in the way comparing a (competing chemical) against the name brand (LSD)-but I only say as such to serve as a reminder there is a world beyond LSD, a world just as rich and very similar to boot.

    The amount of 2c-e I ingested was an eyeballed 12-13 milligrams. I have 25 mg capsules and cut this dose to about half for an introductory experience.

    The qualities this drug seems to evoke is not unlike the longer lasting psychedelics I have tried and am VERY familiar with (LSD and psilocybin)
    I would say though, a trait about it I did notice was it's large spectrum of many faces; a kind of star with each point hinting at a different quality. At least that was the best way I can describe. Sort of like-compared to acid: Cognitively similar yet rhythmically different. And these new rhythms were certainly refreshing. Maybe there is a certain subtle awareness of the metabolization of chemicals that can cause associations very much deemed as pleasurable. Sort of like a song you never heard but are bound to like.

    To elaborate on the rhythms being different, the chemical seemed to evoke the faces of euphoria, empathy, apathy, laughter as a pleasurable reaction, and a sort of moment where there was realization of being "high" but feeling remained almost null (read sober) These "masks" seem to always trail into one another, but never occupied the same space entirely. This is what I found different than acid, unless my imagination is merely acting as a placebo effect to make way trying to describe a chemical I am not used to. However, to simplify an elaboration in favor of being an exaggeration, the chemical was rhythmically different.

    The body high was noticeably different than acid, with a feeling of being enclosed in a "warm bubble, with echo chamber qualities" It was KINDA like being underwater warm water, with a perceived gentle tactile sensations and buzziness filling every cell. VERY desirable.
    This was another (obvious) quality that set it apart from Acid or shrooms, and a welcome one. I can see this drug being used in Performance Art practicing, where the drug does not make movement a sort of focal point (like MDMA) but gives it greater expression and/or added depth due to the highly pleasurable relationship between thought and movement. It's like a hamburger cooked JUST right.

    Another metaphor I would apply to it, is it is like a more Coarse sugar; LSD being powdered sugar, mushrooms being granulated and this being slightly more grainy-Like the sugar you see on top of sweet muffins. So, I'd say this has a slightly tougher texture than the others, but it is JUST as sweet in every way. All three sugars can make a sweet desert, and baking with this one is VERY easy. Set and setting, bake for 10 hours and feel refreshed. It's that easy, and I'll even throw in THREE FREE COOL IDEAS! Just (Mind)set it, and forget it.You could also substitute "Sugar grain" with "Pixel Quality"

    The CEV's on 12 milligrams were completely amazing. In fact, I would need to eat at least 4 to 5 hits of LSD to achieve the CEV's I had with just 12 mg's of this. VERY rich magenta and greens seem to dominate the colorful mind scape, producing intricate floral arrangements, mirror images, generic fractal patters, and overall very crystalline and sharp, as opposed to smokey and wormy. As far as the ornamentation that comes along with psychedelics, the CEVS with this one were the best I have ever seen, Salvia aside. The OEV's were very similar to MDMA, or low doses of Acid. However, based of the consideration of how prevalent the CEV's were, and the tension I noticed of the OEV's, if I were to double the dose the drug would easily become a carnival of kinetics.

    Musical enhancement seemed at times on par with acid, sometimes worse and sometimes better. I wasn't QUITE sure, but I can say there was sound distortion, which comes naturally when time is perceived differently. All in all, I consider sound on this a treat, no matter how I felt. Definitely more interesting than sobriety, when compared to that, and produced enough similarities to at least say it is GOOD. GREAT? I'd have to eat more. But it'd be worth it to find out. AND even if it is not, it is good enough.

    I mean, all in all, this report does try to convey the general point of: Tripping is tripping is tripping...Yes, it does have different signatures than LSD, the body high is different, but eitherway, it is territory that should be familiar to anyone who has used other psychedelics. It is a very fine signal fading tool, having an interaction with them as obvious and familiar as any other traditional psyche...JUST a little different. 2C-E might have a completely different chemical ancestry compared to LSD for say, but is a star on the stage that is your brain just like any other good drug. The form it takes is different (the chemical), the Function the same (Cogitation enrichment/spirituality/consideration of intellectual ideas/imagination/creativity and art catalyst)

    This is definitely a drug to look for...even if you can get acid.

    I have Phenny names!
     
  2. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    Awesome description, man. Also, I agree....2ce is easily as good as LSD.
     
  3. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    For me the reason I place LSD in drug # 1 spot forever is not because of the actual trip itself, but for the permanent change in psyche and the awakening experience it gave me. However this may be simply because it was my first deep trip; everything else i've done came after acid, so maybe if I had smoked DMT first, I would be saying the same thing about that. Maybe it's just chronological bias. I will be trying 2c-e asap.
     
  4. Apollyphelion

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    LSD in a way is still in my number one spot, but this is due to issues with packaging and dosing: very portable and concealable compared to other illegal drugs and very easy to dose accordingly after strength is known. I've used LSD over 200 times, and 2C-E was a refreshing as a change in chemistry, and also doesn't make me cough like LSD will.

    The cognitive effects are equal in every way, and even if someone might be looking for "circus/recreational effects" 2C-E can also cover that.

    Depending on my situation, 2C-E and Acid would be a tough call to choose which to buy: 2C-E is cheaper by comparison and does more or less the same thing.
     
  5. youngbeast817

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    I agree with everybody, 2c-E is very special. Nice review bro!

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    caught my attention. Do you think it would play well with guitar? LSD and guitar are like sex for me xD . But I've never tried anything that needed tactile movement while on 2c-E, and I've only tripped on it twice. I'm getting some more though, most likely gonna start my journey this weekend
     
  6. Apollyphelion

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    I would have to say 2C-E is very musically friendly
    but in a slightly different way.

    I'm in the same boat as you with LSD and Guitar being absolutely mentally orgasmic, and I DO prefer LSD to 2C-E musically, whether listening or playing, however 2C-E is COMPLETELY musically valid.
    (Musically valid=extended perception of the relationship between notes and the timing of them)

    I think while LSD is a better virtual soundboard, 2C-E is very workable and can yield just as good results as LSD when worked with. I think LSD is just a wee bit more efficient (more gentle and easier to work with)
     
  7. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    very good report man
    i took 12 mg my first time too
    the dose i like best is ~17 mg
    i agree most definitely about the CEVs being wondrous and somewhat dominated by magentas and greens. i had not really noticed it, til i read it above...
     
  8. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    Take a real dose of acid, phenethylamines are childs play compared to this psychedelic mecca.
     
  9. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    says the man whose never tried 2ce

    to be clear: i think acid is better overall, but the trips are pretty close.
    ...says the man whose never taken a 10 strip of the world's cleanest L
     
  10. pr0ne420

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    I did a 20mg dose like 4 days ago. I also paid twenty bucks for it. I enjoyed it, as I do with all phenethylamines, but I am sticking with my statement.
     
  11. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    I want you to try 60mg.
    :D
     
  12. PsychedeliaSmith

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    2C-E has nothing on LSD.

    I've snorted 20mg and it still didn't come close. The visuals were great but the overall experience was lacking (as I usually find with phens).
     
  13. Mrs. White

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    I want to try some of this, since lsd doesn't exist in Alaska :( I miss those trips so very much.
     
  14. mindbender62

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    I have been doseing lsd for 30yrs.probally a couple more. I must agree 2c-e is vary close. I nasaled 20mg any I had a real good time at mid point I had that feeling when you had a good "clean" dose of lucy. Know the feelin I mean? I just ordered a gram of 2c-p. I'm hearin good reports. I got only 1 2c-e left. I might take me a ride on the carpet tonight. I just don't like the jaw ache from 2c-e. Got a hand full of xannies this time
     
  15. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    This.

    2c-E really begins to shine when you reach the 50-60mg mark.
     
  16. kobilica

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    I don't like 2C-E but never tried LSD. 2C-E was something most boring, and evil thing... no hallucinations, just being bored and those evil thoughts...

    I like 2C-I though ^^.
     
  17. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    How much 2c-e did you take? 2c-e pwns 2c-i, in every way:D
     
  18. kobilica

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    10mg, 2x 15mg, 20mg and once 25-30mg.

    Only real use of 2C-E is as potentiator for me.
     
  19. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    And how much 2c-i did you take? 2c-e makes 2c-i seem like children's Tylenol. Take about 60mg of 2c-e and then tell me what you think:D
     
  20. kobilica

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    I tried couple times 17mg 2C-i, 20mgs and 25mgs.

    60mg 2C-E, sound like recipe for disaster xO.
     
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