probably when the plant has a fuly bloomed flower, theyre al just about to open too..... its realy not a very big plant, so im not taking the leaves, it needs those to grow.
As most people said, this is a stupendously bad idea. No matter how experienced you are with drugs, datura is not something to fuck with. As far as understanding or enlightenment is concerned, datura is also not the kind of plant for that. Most people barely even remember the experience much less learn anything from (aside from what schizophrenia is like). If you want epiphanies, then drink ayahuasca.
just eat a fuckload of of bennadryl [or other dph product] for a similar, but SAFER experience. datura is really dangerous
You don't make ayahuasca out of datura; the word "ayahuasca" refers to the caapi vine, any other admixtures (including DMT-containing plants) are generally considered secondary if indeed necessary at all. That being said, it is fairly common for indigenous shamans to toss a brugmansia leaf or two in their brews, but that is only for very experienced workers.
I know of a guy who went missing after he took datura. Still haven't found him. I've never experienced datura, but I've experienced schizophrenia. They sound pretty similar from what I've read and, from my experiences with schizo, definetely not something you want to purposely induce. If you're for learning, then maybe you'll gain something out of it, IDK. But, from what I've gotten out of insanity is like the opposite of learning. More like de-learning everything and becoming unattached from yourself and becoming some sort of mindless zombie. I'd stick with shrooms, they'll teach you more and safer. Don't consider my opinion valid cause I've never experienced datura, I don't care, but like I said I know of a guy who went completely missing on the shit 2 years ago. He had 2 people at his house with him and knew he was tripping but weren't really paying that much attention to him I guess.
Maybe he broke through to the next dimension! Sorry i shouldn't joke about that but i just couldn't help my self. Yeh i dont think their is much to be learnt from datura, if people want a taste of what a deliriant is like they are better of trying out some Diphenhydramine & seeing how enjoyable that is, atleast its much safer than datura. I remember being young and interested in wanting to take datura nobody could have stopped me from trying it back then no matter how good the advice was, thankfully i never got around to trying it. I look back on that and im greatful as i cant imagine it would have been very good, maybe one day in the future ill try it i still have a slight interest in it but i value my sanity too much at the moment.
I would say, don't do it. I was kind of like you when I was sixteen, that is I felt if I didn't do a drug, I would regret it, so I did allot of drugs. I really wanted to try dartura, and I almost did (my friend found one going) but I ended up getting sent to inpatient rehab and was never able to. I also wanted to try pcp, but for some reason, the one guy in the school who could get me some, for some reason suddendly dicided I was a narc. Serioulsy, I would have been one completely fucking commited narc... seriusly, the other day I found my high school ID, and I was like, "Holy shit, I looked like such a fucking stoner" I mean, my eyes are even red in it.... I believe I have forgotten the original point to this reply. Ahh yes, so some advice would be, instead of smoking dartura, just rent a bunch of cool/funny movies, buy like an ounce of pot, go to your friends house and just smoke for two days straight.
I never knew the guy who went missing myself, besides seeing him maybe once or twice. But I know one of his trip sitters really well and he is not the brightest light in the house, so it was a recipe for disaster from the start.
If the op wants to try datura or any other deliriant let her fucking try it. It's not like we're the ones who might od, have a bad trip, end up in the hospital or a jail cell, or whatever.
i've dabbled in pharmaceutical delirients. From my experience with this family of drugs it is worth trying but you won't have fun. All the times i did dph, thps etc. the whole trip consisted of me trying to keep my head above water and not do anything stupid. I also never had any sitters except some random friends who came and went during the experience, most hallucinations thats probably why. But you'll probably feel really distant and like you can't talk or anything, and when you do it will be nothing but gibberish and scattered metaphores. Its true insanity. You can be in your living room and forget where you are and think your in the subway downtown throwing change to a beggar. I also had trips where ufo's landed in my yard and strange martians came to possess my soul. It's mind melting freaky shit. Also if you're like me be prepared for an extremely dry mouth to the point where you can barely swallow and feel like you going to die of suffocation, drinking water doesnt even help ime. So the negative physical effects compounded by the true hallucinations you experience will throw you in a corner and leave you there to either stick it out or die a terrible insanity ridden death. Good luck :3
Oh ya one of my friends who tried the actual datura thing rather then the pharmaceutical agents was having alot better time then me it seems. He was laying bare ass in his bed fucking his satin sheets think it was an old girlfriend of his but noone was there lol So i guess you may or may not find some merit in this plant, again best of luck hope you can make it through the experience. And those centipedes that will be crawling around your floor by the millions don't really exist lol
i just took about four big hits of datura and feel a bit wierd(i smoked the leaves by the way) but i heard that you cant get high by smoking it i can tell its here though and i want to hit it some more you thinki should?
I have heard that doing that does get you high, Its alot safer and the high is nothing compared to ingesting it. Sure smoke more i might try that sometime i dunno.
smoked datura does work, but yeah if you're going for strength the tea is the way to go. really though i think everyone would be better off if people just left this plant alone. it smells nice, we should just leave it at that. no need to fuck around with evil spirits and permanent insanity.
Like i said, smoking it is safer. I never want to try the tea from what iv'e heard, but smoking it doesn't seem too bad. I have also heard that if you put datura under your pillow you get wicked lucid dreams.
What? You put it under your pillow? Kinda sounds like a myth to me. And last night after I smoked it I felt weird like a dxm high or something
Yeah it has been known that people feel different just by being around the plant or by smelling it since it has such a powerful aroma.