Thought broadcasting

this happens to me on lsd

 

you either have telepathic powers or it was a hallucination induced by lsd.

 

I think you're probably right about all the info we could want being right in front of us - but our minds are designed to block most of it.

And your thoughts on "gravity" are interesting - but a bit hard to put legs on. Can you give examples from your experiences or others' experiences?

 

Well i can give a literary example

"you have to acknowledge the gravity of the situation..."

This is a struggle, i know that concepts like meaning and flow (its the same thing as living in the past/future-for meaning and living in the present-for flow) are ones of a creatures experience. I consider life experience to be the 'ether' or substance that the spiritual world is constructed.

So, if one is having a rather larger experience...be it by creating a lot of meaning, or by having a lot of flow...then in a sense it has more spiritual substance, and this in turn can lead to the experience having a spiritual mass. this mass affects other experience/spiritual substance, it need not consume/overwhelm it BUT it can curve the space on which the experience exists.

So, say theres a base ball game and people are having fun, or feeling angry for loosing...what ever. Suddenly someone strikes the ball out of the ball park...while not everyone may have been really watching before, they certainly watch now. A weak example because most people there are there to watch for this, but yeah before this great experience of the batter, more people had their experiences unrelated...but the event happens and the experience kind of sucks people in.

 

I agree, lost minty.

 

*beams*

does that mean i win the internet?

 

*hands you the internet, nods head*

 

lostminty, you have some very interesting thoughts. I like this idea of spiritual gravity. Humhmmm...revolves around the subjective viewpoint - yet in the final analysis, what is experience but a subjective viewpoint? As many universes as there are living beings - yet some universes overlap for a time, and I think your "gravity" has something to do with this. This is of course one of the main cogs of the book I'm writing - the whole idea of viewpoint as a universe.

More thoughts needed...

 

That could be what philip meant...

When I had a manic break down I went to a hospital and a guy there kept telling me how easy it was to create a universe.

sod i just lost my post

to back track to an earlier idea - although this one has been hard to really expand on.
fundemental emotions
4 of them, like the fundemental forces of reality

the first two are external, these interact with other beings
love-hate (gravity)
suprise/disgust (radiation)

the second two are internal, these create definition within ones being
anger/fear (nuclear weak)
joy-misery (nuclear strong)

the forces with a dash (-) i consider to be a spectrum emotion
the forces with a slah (/) i consider to be an emotion that alternates between states.

 

Hmmm...the anger/fear alternation is easy to see - surprise/disgust is harder. Having trouble seeing that one.

Joy-misery definitely does seem to be a spectrum. Frankly I'm not so sure about love-hate. Sometimes that duality seems like an alternating one to me - but maybe that's just because of the types of relationships I've been in. The thing is, love and hate are both strong and somewhat obsessive emotions fixed on a person or object, and one can change to the other fairly rapidly under certain circumstances. The antithesis of both is apathy.

 

Yeah I certainly agree love-hate is a difficult one to fit, Perhaps this is something else again...i mean we don't see anti-gravity often, maybe love-hate can exist when we are not true to ourselves and others, part of us hates you...the other part loves you?

Having said that...Perhaps Love coupled with alternating anger/fear is closer to what a relationship can be, for me in a way this is true but the words i have used to describe the feeling is more along the lines of hate.

Oh yes the surprise/disgust.

Well...I used to have some good examples of this...but the basic one would be a site like www.rotten.com
I don't suggest you go there if you're not familiar with it. The idea i had was intrigue at something different...then some kind of disgust at what you witness...like seeing a car crash and not being able to look away? idk....or people going to the auto races hoping to see a crash.

surprise/disgust isn't right really. Curious/Judgment might be closer?

 

Oh yes, suprise/disgust...I think humans are very curious...we will seek out that which is different, looking for something to suprise us..but when we find it, we don't exactly like it...this often leads to us changing it although that is a choice, much like world explorers back in the day...often finding a very unique culture, then being digusted they didn't have religion of the right kind..

Is that a natural experience? maybe its a barrier to enlightenment, a sort of selfishness

 

You have no basis for this

 

In my humble opinion, a new paradigm is needed. If the entire basis of the universe were awareness, then the idea of "energy" passing through walls would be pointless, wouldn't it? Awareness is at all times at all points in the physical universe, I believe.

 

i do like that universe being awareness thing, reminds me of when i thought about magic and decided it had to be an agreement, and then realised that its all an agreement anyway otherwise it won't work out

 

Yeeeesss...that's something that bears thinking about.

 

I don't see why it has to be so complicated. It almost seems like a relationship has to be the perfect mixture of diseases anymore. It's hard to tell whether women want imperfections or not -- to have something to change, while rejecting men for being imperfect... It's total senselessness, no way to understand it. No point in even thinking.

 

I've had too many trips where I've over analyzed things to the point of painful complexity :S It's probably ruined a lot of experiences for me. And infact I think it's a big part of thought projection, that intense focus of people...sorta obeys the 1st law of mechanics...every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Which is very karmic too

Then again I also think about life like a pendulum..in that the reaction won't fully affect us until we're swinging the opposite way.

I summed that up as, what goes around comes around, when you turn around.