atomic, amt has the same paradoxical effect as MDMA on me; that is, profound stimulation, and also deep relaxation. I actually get sleepy coming up on both, and I have periods of sleepiness and just lying-down-closing-eyes-melting-into-carpet periods on both. Even though the amt comeup is relatively long, it's still quite a rocket ride. I mean it honestly feels to me almost like I popped some molly, just stretched out over ~2 hours instead of ~1 hour. That's still a fast ride up, considering it takes you higher than molly. I have also noticed this "burnt out" "achey" feeling, and some headache. this again is basically identical to an MDMA hangover. I find it's quite mild still though, and probably greatly lessened by spacing out amt trips, and working on the prefix and suffix to your word of a trip homeslice. the whole experience is easy. the comeup may not be physically easy though, youll have to find that out on your own. for me its only about as difficult as the comeup to say, mdma. some shits, some nausea, some coughing, wham bam oh look i'm peaking. I can tell you from experience that both the duration and the MAOI properies of aMT have been grossly inflated. I have on 2 occasions now consumed inhuman amounts of alcohol while peaking on amt, i've smoked dmt on amt, i've smoked pot on amt. I've snorted many lines of ketamine on amt. it goes great with everything. I wouldn't do really dangerous maoi combinations like amt + cocaine, but I bet you even THAT is safe. Also on every single one of my trips at dosages from 25-45mg, I have gotten to sleep within my normal time frame, plus like 1-2hrs tops. If you *have* to suddenly function in front of authorities on 30mg, you will perform fantastically, but I would advise you not to take that dose if you are going to be in communication with these people for a significant time. You are gonna be really energized, really chatty, really euphoric, and you're gonna have light psychedelic effects on top of that. Imagine being on a roll of MDA, but with minimal mindfuck. It's fun and intense, and you might feel like you're wasting it at school, but you might not. I have had a FANTASTIC time every time i'm on it at work, and with school around the corner, I will definetely be tripping on it at some point when I'm in class I'm sure.
Hmm good to know. Maybe I'll just try a 15 mg dose at school. I'm just looking for a nice pick-me-up and I can't STAND adderall. Just tweaks me out and keeps me up 24+ hours. Atomic what was your shipping time like?
damn dude really amphets only keep me up for like 12 or less hours if that. i have snorted like 100 mg at 5 and been able to fal assleep at like 3. oh well
good to hear. seems like he provides himself some buffer time on his estimations, which is good IMO. Most vendors say it'll get there a lot quicker than it actually does, which is no good.
good to know mr.writer...thanks! how'd it mix with K? it seems like it'd mix very well...i LOVE the mix of MDMA and K...in fact, i think mdma by itself is kinda stupid, but mixed with K it is glorious.
ok guys since AMT is similar to mdma in its effects i have a BIG question so i did ex and mdma a lot for awhile, a lot, and i did start noticing it having negative effects on my body (not just immediately after, cuz ive only had 1 bad come down) but in other ways. now i will say this could have been partially a result of my add meds (which i am also HAPPILY and THANKFULLY off now)...ok so my question here is, well i am looking for speculation since this is a fairly new drug i doubt there is formal research about how it affects the brain. Do you guys think it is as bad for your brain as mdma (i know a lot of this shit abotu mdma is bullshit, but you have to admit it isn't fantastic for your brian)? sorry to be a buzz kill but i am very curious. i havent rolled since january, i am just waiting for the perfect opportunity.
Yeah actually AMT is not new at all and has plenty of research, it was synthed in the 60's and was marketed as an anti depressant in soviet russia under the name indopan. The effects are similar but NOT the same, AMT does have a longer duration, and only releases probably 1/3rd the amount of serotonin as MDMA, it never gave me the over the top body orgasmic euphoria, but it does give a wonderful gentle happy and warm euphoria which a psychedelic twist in higher dosages. At 30mg it was like popping 1 good pill, or maybe 80mg of mdma. 60mg was more euphoric but only slightly, the latter half of the trip had minor visuals such as colors and breathing. I suspect AMT is a bit of an exagerated chemical. The erowid dosages seem to be exceptionally low in my opinion, I believe a standard high dose should be 100mg, with the medium being 60, and the low 30. Also the duration of anything under 100mg seems to be much shorter than 20 hours, more like 6-possibly 12, my 60mg dose lasted from 9am (11am effects took in) till about 3-4 in the afternoon. I believe it isnt until you hit a certain dose close to 100mg that the duration drastically increases. --------- AMT notes: Not quite as bad as MDMA, not as big of a release of serotonin, 100mg for real visuals and euphoria 60mg for an energetic and euphoric high with minor visuals 30mg for a light amphetamine/speed type of high with euphoria (it appears that no matter the dose, AMT has no mindfuck and your mind and thought process is largely unaffected, making this most definitly the phenethylamine of the tryptamines.) Duration for anything under say 60-80mg and it will not last past 12 hours, if even. Anything over 100 will probably last the said 20 hours. 30mg lasted really only 4-5 hours for me. Also, I have yet to try oral as ive read it causes lots of nausea and vomiting, so far I have twice done rectal administration, the comeup is typically 1 hour and a half, to 2 hours, probably the same oral. Rectal admin eliminates nausea but did cause me to emergency puke a couple times though not in a nauseas way just similar to a sneeze. It did make my ass uncomfortable for 5 minutes, and the comeup to me is rather uncomfortable with lots of body jitters and this sort of amphetamine like feeling.
a couple pages back i linked to a scientific study that said, of some common PEAs and trypts (2cxs, DPT, 5meodmt, dmt, etc) that AMT was the strongest re uptake inhibitor/releaser of serotonin. so i think it could be worse for your brain than some other RCs, but maybe not as bad as MDMA.
i concluded the exact same thing from my one experience of the combination; I promised myself I would never roll again without taking K during it. Unfortunately I haven't yet done a k-hole + aMT combo, I've only tooted lines (~10-25mg) successively for a few hours, and that was predictably pleasant but nothing "out of this world shocking" as your first rolling k hole. <3
sorry guys, i didn't read through the entire thread before i posted but i think i may give this a try i know someone who will be getting some soon
received today. this stuff does smell VERY strong when opening the bag. very much like burning DMT...i miss it...
FOund me a legit looking UK supplier for AMT, best thing is it's still legal here from what I can tell.
35mg yesterday mixed intermittently with bud and K was AMAZING! I had tried it at 20 and 25mg before. I can't begin to describe it near as well as Writer and others, but talk about the overwhelming joy, feeling of warmness and amazing euphoria.