feels like im brainwashed

Okay, so I guess basically from the day i hit the earth man, i was raised to be christian, as i assume alot of people have in america.

but i feel it controls me, like i got my logic, and read information, that just disputes what i have been taught through my childhood, and to be honest christianity, the bible, all of it, really dont make any sense to me.

but its been put into my head throughout my life, that "the devil trys to put false ideas in your head to drive you away from god" something along that lines, "to take you to hell".

i mean, the reason i keep coming back to even give the jesus bunch a chance, is cause ive been brainwashed to think that im gonna go to hell if i reject jesus.

i think this fear goes over alot of us raised this way, all the propaganda put out by the christians, and its very hard to liberate yourself from a belief system or philosopy of any kind, when its been pounded you into for so many years.


it just bugs me, i view the belief in the god of the bible as a big ass burden on my mind, i fuckin hate it to be honest. as i really dont give a fuck about bein a saint or religious spiritual person at all, think its a waste of time honestly, but it just still all in my head all the bullshit i been taught.


i dont know if anyone ever felt this way, probably so.... but hey im just ventin on the jeezus fucks puttin the bullshit in my brain.

hum, i really don think i weill teach my kids religion, fuck that. ill let em think for themselves.


anyways peace.

 

I use to feel the same exact way. I use to be a passionate christian who believe that all the doubts are just the devil trying to distance me from god.

Now I am, for the most part, free from that guilt. I do have that guilt from time to time when "forced" to go to church. You can't expect a lifetime of teachings to become unlearned in a short period of time. Especially if you still attend church.

 

God exists, hell doesn't. So don't worry. Live and love, all will be well.

You are capable of critical thinking and reasoning, and you have been given a great gift in common sense. Use these things to your advantage, and never have unquestioned faith in anything or anyone.

 

Only weak minds get brainwashed. I have done alot of brainwashing things, but i only stick to things that i know i really love, and think exactly how i wannah think. You are the holder of the brain. Or do you want the brain to be the holder of you.

 

You can believe in God/Jesus all you want and be right. Just make sure you actually talk to Him. The Bible is not "the word of God", it is the falsified profiteering deliberately manipulated misstranslation interpereted by Man.


You don't think the church would really let you in on the secret that the bible must have been re-written hundreds of times, not to mention dozens of councils who decided what would and would not be put in the bible.

 

yeah, thanks for replying, i like your alls opinions.

anyones on this?

ok well, besides that fear, which i view as really childish, this is the only thing that keeps me considering coming back

the whole bible prophecy thing, like how it predicted shit thats gonna go on now, and shit of thatn ature... like isreal coming back together for one. or some prophecies about tyre and some other city... haha i know im not too specific here, but im sure if anyones been raised christian they've heard.

i mean, i dont have anything against a belief in god, or afterlife, its just it dosen't make any sense getting saved. i mean from what ive read jesus isn't even original its like pagan myths.... and also, if i can just sin all my life and then jesus forgive me at the end, why not live my life for the devil?

you know it???

peace out.

 

Hey, look at it this way,,



just kidding.

But really, think about it, even the apostle Paul determined at one point in his life to forget all the religious teachings he'd been exposed to growing up, having gone to the best schools, etc.

He said that what he had received (what was real), he had not received from any man's teaching, and that it was only by means of revelation.

He also states that he determined not to know anything,,

and that he had found that the way to go was to forget all that was behind,,,

Sometimes you just have to put aside everything you've learned,,been taught, etc.. clean slate. Emptied out.

That's what "poor in spirit" really means. Emptied out.

Let it all go.

What's real will always remain.

 

lol, thata funny face.

i like that man, like cause i already kinda admit i dont know anything, and i didn't know it was biblical, what these ultra christains seem to think is if they read the bible they already know everything, cause they're not to biblical then huh?

well thanks for that advice ill be sure to follow it.

 

Freedom_Man, I used to live your story.

There's nothing weak about being indoctrinated into something from the get go. You were trying to figure out yourself and the world and you've been misled. The fears and imprints can run deep.

It took me a while to completely get rid of that old mentality. But the thing you have to do is not worry about getting rid of the old mentality, but finding Truth. Because if you find the Truth then there is no room for doubt or fear. You must live the positive instead of just trying to forget the negative.

Find out what God really is.

 

Most of what you see as "today's christians" aren't christians at all, just religionists, like in the days of Paul. Today's christians are by and large yesterday's jewish religionists. They've simply made the new testament into a newer version of the old, simply appending the law.

Give it up.

What Jesus said about them. "Let them alone. They be blind, leaders of the blind. If the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch."

 

i kinda look at "the law" as i've heard, like the old laws of the old testament, i dont think they had anything to do with god, just man makin up all kindsabullshit honestly. yeah, there are 10 commandments, that christians go by, but there are tons more not included with those ten that dont make any sense whatsoever.

so i think jesus was just tryin to say, all the laws aren't inspired by the true god, just some bullshit humans.

also i got a theory that, jesus wasn't real, maybe his stories were just made up to liberate the people of the time from the old laws.


i got alot of thoughts on the subject, i mean they're just thoughts but hey thats what you gotta do think.

also does it not say somewhere, i cant qoute, i think it was from paul? that to reason among yourselfs, and dont blindly follow things, and to have reason for the faith you have.

i dont think the bible in itself, all of it, is illogical, i think that parts of it are, cause man wrote it, and i think people, filled with fear today, are just putting their own biased on it these days.


but yet again thanks to you and also to everyone else replying to my thread, tsurogi, appreiciate that as well. just fuck the fear like just dont worry and find the truth as you go? no worries, just searchin.

hell yah.


well peace yall.