I loves my 4 fold of the human condition, in that i believe that we commonly break down into 4 dimensions, within mindspace. I came across this wiki section which has the 16 basic desire theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation#Intrinsic_motivation_and_the_16_basic_desires_theory And I had a go at breaking it up into 4 groups of 4 Extrinsic Appearance * Acceptance, the need for approval * Idealism, the need for social justice * Honor, the need to be loyal to the traditional values of one's clan/ethnic group * Status, the need for social standing/importance Intrinsic Appearance * Curiosity, the need to think * Independence, the need for individuality * Social Contact, the need for friends (peer relationships) * Physical Activity, the need for exercise immediate need * Eating, the need for food * Family, the need to raise children * Romance, the need for sex * Tranquility, the need to be safe future need * Order, the need for organized, stable, predictable environments * Power, the need for influence of will * Saving, the need to collect * Vengeance, the need to strike back
It looks like a far shittier version of Maslow's hierarchy of human needs, which is already debatable. Was this really necessary? It looks like you just added some extra bullshit ones. Vengeance? Is that really an important factor influencing human behavior?
All the desires are from a large survey I didn't really add anything...just suggested some possible groupings because I really like things in 4's and often I find things fit really well into fours And while you may not VALUE vengeance, as in its not morally/ethically/idealistically important. It certainly does generate action. Have you heard of WAR? its kinda like vengeance.... I state again. NOT MY LIST OF IDEAS. DERIVED FROM SURVEY
the problem with desire, and possibly why enlightenment advises against it, is that it's a handle by which we can be manipulated, any desire, and manipulated by each other, for any reason whatever. not always bad of course. but certainly without regard to any real benefit.
perculiar, this advice against desire due to chance of manipulation? I do not really understand..I guess I mean that many very selfless people (i guess this is non-desire...but it doesn't have to be) are manipulated. 'Good' intentions have lead to horrific acts
in any case, the state of india, where i think a lot of this enlightenment idealism comes from...is hardly a case to prove that enlightenment betters a society.
I love Maslow's heirachy, but you're right in that it doesn't leave much room for people to just be 'mean' or 'bad' by free will. But I think most psychological concepts like this tend to be imperfect but still contain elements of truth that are useful.
