A trip and a half. come up quickly began 10 minutes after licking powder. Dreaminess and sedation begin swelling. This effect grows, not a simple "downer" but rather a continuous gnawing at the one who seeks to "do". I manage to arrive at the river, by now grinning, giggling, and thinking "I definetely took enough!" I take my shoes and socks off, and wade into the river. I listen to Golden Caps by Entheogenic, it is an excellent choice for this. I am starting to feel so happy, so full of enjoyment and bliss, that I feel like I've thrown a party and no one has shown up. I call some friends, chat with them, conversation is a bit difficult as I tend to speak quieter and laugh in the middle of words. Eventually I realize I'm just reacting to the effects of 4-aco-dmt, and I finish conversations, put music and cellphone away, and just stand in the river. rushing water still shore clouds mushrooming in molasses trees sway slowly A small part of the cacophonous space that is my mind says "hey what am i doing?" I assess, and see I have been sitting in sand with my legs in the river, staring forward, smiling, radiating, glowing. I think about recent social interactions that have occured. They run through my mind at a dizzying speed; each one yields insight "that happened because of this", "I should have done that, because this", and all kinds of easy "clicks" that made me realize that I have been becoming a bit "introverted" and thus not performing as well as I can with other beings. I see right away where the problem lies, why I fell for the problem, what the solution is, how to prevent problem from happening again. I feel a bit emotional at this point; I realize this is not one of those "clinical" trips but rather a very deeply personal one. Swirls of color and little visual tricks and a wonderful new layer of shimmer on everything. This is it. All the posturing and doing, have been part of a misunderstanding. This is all there is; sitting in river, smiling. No need for anything else. No room for anything else. Entire universe has consumed 4-aco-dmt today. I begin thinking of ways to spike the pacific ocean with this, because if all beings could be touched like this, things would be very different. I "come to" again, and see that now I am standing a bit deeper in the river. I think, maybe it's time to head home. I reach the shore about 10 seconds later and just laugh. Everything is breathing and becoming me / i becoming it, and I stumble on nothing and almost fall face first. I realize knee deep in water is actually a fine place to experience this. Eventually I feel the first cold breeze of the evening and decide that's a good time to head home for a hot shower and some cannabis. Walking back to bicycle; a kid slips on his bike and crashes down and skids and ends up with his leg tangled up in the bike. I worry first that he has broken bones, then I worry about whether or not I can function "soberly" in front of ambulance/police. I realize I cannot, but that is a risk I must take to flow. I walk to the kid, assess damage, he is fine, help him up and on his bike. He is genuinely grateful. Crossing a bridge, still heading to bike. A man on a bike passes me, and as I turn the corner, I see a rather effeminate looking man has taken a picture of the passing biker's behind. He sees me see this and quickly pretends to be taking pictures of the river. I smile and walk on past. Wondrous. I am feeling profoundly aroused I suddenly realize. I want to have sex very very much, I want to fuck like a fucking animal. And I want it now, and I want it for hours. One woman may not do the trick. This is a truly cosmic state of sexual prowess. I had heard that mushrooms cause this, but my one time tripping on them I shot far past that dosage range and into "couch locked and drooling and crying from laughter". Pristine mood, insight, and grace pervade my evening. I smoke some weed in a forest with a friend, have a beer, and bike home, knowing I have to wake up at 7 am the next day. I was definetely "post trip" in my head today, but nothing major. folks, folks, folks. where is this all going. why is it that everytime i try a new tryptamine, it is "the best one". Grab 4-aco-dmt. It is one of the softest, gentlest, deepest, most blissful, entheogenic, empathogenic, stimulating, sedating psychedelics I have ever done. It is smoother than butter. No side effects. None. Just an incredible tour de force of an experience. In terms of "fun" value, this may be my new #1 drug. Obviously can't be done often, nor would I want to, as it's not terribly cheap and, well, I want to be able to take 4-aco-dmt for the rest of my life. This will never get old.
Sounds fucking awesome. I cant wait til I can get some. How would you say it compares to a mushroom trip?
This is definitely the NEXT on my list, since my 1.75 gram stash before was all flushed down Considering the price of the netherlands one where you got, I'm thinking of going with the canadian one who will restock it by mid september, however I read on UD that 20 mg from the canadian one only gave the person a trip equivilant to 1.5 gs of shrooms. I think it was twang who said that lol. Sucks that UD is down atm, as I'd rather just order from the canadian one rather than have to go through all the trouble with the netherland one. Maybe the denmark one will stock it soon, considering on how their front page they say that they are working on a new tryptamine and it remains a secret. Tough decisions here...
God I with psychedelics did that to me, they always make me kind of quiet and paranoid, as opposed to giggly and excited. =/
Did the one situated in the Netherlands sell HCl? Since the Canadian one sells fumarate, it takes a little more for it to be equivalent to the effects of the HCl.
Nope it was also fumarate. Anyone have any idea if 4 aco is what the denmark one is gonna stock? Sucks that undrugged is still down, probably woulda said there as they said on the site its a secret.
No that one is fumarate as well, hence requiring a higher dose than listed on erowid, on top of erowid's normal low dose recommendations. Next time I'm gonna do 80mg. it feels much more like DMT than 4-HO-DMT. But DMT with an emotional overlay of epic euphoria and empathy, different visuals, different body high, different effects on behaviour. How the hell can I answer that man. LSD changed my life, nothing else has come near it thus far in my travels, but in terms of the fun of the trip itself, I'd have no problem ranking 4-ACO-DMT with LSD and DPT and DMT AMT and all the good jazz Even (low dose) mushrooms?
jesus christ....80mg I NEED to read that TR. You're making me think I should change my initial dose of 13 mg. I'm really sensitive to shrooms though so I don't know yet.
Why do you need UD to make your decision to order with the canadian vendor? I wouldnt think they have suddenly turned scam while UD went down, they have always been legit. Atleast I hope they're still legit as I have some 2ce on the way.
can you explain that a little more. Ive only done dmt once and I was extremely fucked up. Like I couldnt do anything but lay down.
I also ordered 2c-e .... They took payment and everything is ok, hope it arrives soon... No way they became scamers overnight, especially because they are a real company.. I hope when they restock 4-aco-DMT price will be little lower and I will definitely buy it.. It's great you can dose it as high as you can handle without negative effects. And I will be able to experience very, very high dose mushroom-like experience....
That was me who said that 20 mg felt more like 1.5g of mush. pretty weak. it will vary person to person.
yeah man 2 grams made me anxious as hell, there were nice visuals, actually no body load, and a nice relaxing sedation but the body high was really edgy and anxious and uncomfortable. I only did shrooms once though
13mg oral wouldn't do shit man. Maybe insufflated. Maybe. 4-aco-dmt Fumarate requires higher dosage than is written on the interwebs. It just feels more like an analogue of DMT than a "shrooms trip in powder form". It is it's own thing. The whole "4-aco-dmt -> 4-ho-dmt" thing is actually speculation. I believe it occurs partially, possibly, but the rapid onset of 4-aco-dmt shows that it itself is psychoactive with its own effects. I think that first you peak on 4-aco-dmt, then it gradually begins to break down to 4-ho-dmt and the trip naturally flows onward into slightly more mushroomy territory, but still completely unique. There is a dmt-esque push to it, and the experience in general just made me say "wow this is like dmt" except its more stimulating in every way; in emotion, in thought, in behaviour, in body sensations. dont hesitate for another second. introduce your synapses to this. you have to let that body high flow. im guessing it was just way intense. just gotta not get "caught up" over how "you feel".
I tried 4-aco-dmt last night, 30-35mg and got my ass kicked. i didnt expect to trip nearly as hard as I did. Sounds somewhat similar to your trip Writer, but very very different. ill write up a TR soon proly
Mr Writer, I wonder what a bad trip report would look like from you Though I don't think thats even possible...