Rules of fighting: girls?

by the way, if you did try to start a fist fight with me, I'd just walk away. If you attacked me however, well, I'm trained to strike while parrying/blocking before moving in for a takedown or throw so yeah, expect me to hit back.

 

I think you should just do what's necessary to defend yourself. No one should be punching!

 

I agree with your first sentence. However, your second one contradicts it. Sometimes it IS necessary to strike back. Sometimes it's not. But sometimes it is. There is a reason why the saying "A good offense is the best defense" exists. Because in some cases it's true.

Let's suppose, for the sake of discussion that you attack me by punching me. Let's assume that walking away/escaping is not an option (in reality, unless the situation is extreme, escape is usually possible).

Now one punch I can block. But what happens after I block your punch? If you really are committed to hurting me, you're going to continue throwing punches at me in the hopes of landing at least one. And if you see that doesn't work, you'll probably even throw in a few kicks, try to grab me, scratch me, whatever. If I were to simply block/parry/dodge those attacks, sooner or later at least one of them is going to hit their target.

Quite simply, a defense made entirely of defensive moves (blocking, parrying, dodging, etc.) is not really that effective against a determined attacker. A more effective defense is a counterattack (for example: I parry your punch and throw my own). Counterattacks are more effective because when properly executed they not only nullify the opponent's attacks, they also keep him/her on the defensive - making it harder for the opponent to attack again.

To return to our imaginary fight: let's suppose that instead of repeatedly blocking and parrying your punches, I instead parry and sidestep your first punch and fire my own. Let's suppose that as I do so, I also slide my leading leg behind your leading leg taking away your balance as I knock you backwards. Now that is a much more effective defense than simply taking multiple punches on my arms.

Now you can argue that: I'm bigger than you and can hit harder than you can. That may be true but that doesn't mean that you cannot hurt me. Your relatively smaller size may make it difficult for you to inflict serious damage on my person, but that doesn't mean that you cannot hurt me at all. Now if you are smaller and not as martially effective as I am, than sure I can hold back on my punches out of mercy, maybe instead of hitting back, I can sweep your leg and do a takedown (which will still hurt if you don't know how to fall properly) - but don't expect me to passively stand there taking your attacks cause you're smaller.

 

You paint a vivid imaginary fight. Can't really argue with you as I sort of meant 'no one should be punching in the first place.' No doubt some men will be adamant about never hitting a woman but honestly, I wouldn't expect you to stand passively whilst being attacked. If we can agree on my first sentence then we're good.

 

Sorry, I realized what you really meant after I hit the POST button. Sometimes I think too much... Yeah, we're good

 

Better too much...!

 

this is kinda tricky... i think that if he's like super macho then no. but definitely if the woman WANTS him to fight back, then yeah. but not if he's huuuge and has a way better advantage.

 

men shouldn't fight women.. end off...

 

PEOPLE shouldn't be fighting PEOPLE. In a perfect world, we wouldn't be fighting. unfortunately...

 

personally no i dont think he should hit back but his defince should be using restraint he has the ability to really hurt you and in most cases the girl doesnt so he shouldnt hit but restrain you till either you calm down or he can get out of your reach
i dont make a habit of fighting but the one fight i got into with my ex was after i caught him cheating for the umpteenth time i flew into a rage and wound up hitting him it was only a slap like i said i dont fight but i did it several times finally he did a move on me that while executed properly would have restrained me he was to mad and i wound up with my head smacking a concrete floor and a concusion but i calmed down alright it hurt then ill tell you that but i know i was in the wrong still

 

I think it's important to know what level of force is appropriate to use at that particular situation. Slapping as in your case? Yeah, i would have gone for restraint (or walking away, which is easier and safer to do). Punching and/or kicking? Depending on your body weight as compared to mine I might use a bit more force on that one. Weapons? I'm either running away or you're going down.

But by far, the best is to not let matters escalate into physical violence in the first place, yes? If you hadn't flown into a rage and started hitting him there would be no need for physical force from his end. On the other hand, if he hadn't cheated you wouldn't have flown into a rage.

 

im 5"1 and small in size and have no strength behind a punch typical girly girl type

 

Like I said, it's important to know what level of force is appropriate in a particular situation. It would definitely not be appropriate for me to use a lot of force with you since I pack more power, so I'd probably either try a very gentle judo takedown (and hope you don't bang your head on the floor) or leave (a lot safer for both of us).

anyway, I think instead of speculating what either of us would do in a hypothetical situation, perhaps it would be more useful to discuss about how to deescalate a tense situation so we don't have to even consider using force in the first place.

 

hmm this situation dont cheat multiple times and try to lie when evidence is brought to your face.
normal situations try to rationalize the problem walk away till both parties are calm enought to talk it threw with words not fists or weapon of choice

 

:iagree: :cheers2:

 

i agree......the truth sadly is that men are stronger than women .Women tend to not weigh as much and imo are frail in comparison. not all cases but some. The male should be man enough to walk away and dump her ass or he could end up behind bars since the law tends to take the females side based on the facts ive stated above

 

lmao........classic


btw your post is one of the more intelligent ones ive read on this thread

 

And I seriously resent this fact. I hate that I have to constantly be aware that I'm of the weaker sex. That I have to be more careful alone at night and that no matter how advanced we've become we still are not equals.

 

if you define equality as sameness then of course we will never be equals.

 

"I have to be more careful alone at night." Does that make you weaker? Or smarter? only a fool would think his physical strength was enough to protect him. I'm a man and you know what? if i was walking down the street alone at night, I'd also be careful. I'd also be nervous. 'Cause it doesn't take much to put down even a strong man. You're right to be careful. but that doesn't mean you're weak, it just means you're smart - in other words, your strength is in your head and not in your muscles.