What we are eating.

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by hitomi, Aug 29, 2009.

  1. hitomi

    hitomi Member

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    There is no doubt that most of the food we eat is not healthy at all, and that it is going to result in diseases sooner or later. But how can we know what to eat, and what not to eat?
    How about sharing what we know about healthy food,healthy Diets and unhealthy eating habits?
     
  2. lostminty

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    I'm pretty sure its evident what is and is not healthy. Fresh produce is good, hyper processed produce is bad.

    I do not agree that what we eat is bad, or that our food is weak. It's the diet thats weak, the mind thats weak. Life expentancy, general health, infectious deaths and the majority of aliments are diminishing.

    What we are experiencing is a disproportional increase in standards, one that our food industries are not economically or agriculturally prepared for.

    It will be great to like to 160, and maybe if i hadn't been so harsh to my body the last 10 years then I'd probably reach it with most of my cognitive processes
     
  3. Stabby

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    Well firstly we're all nutrient deficient to some extent. If you're not consuming enough vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, fiber, etc, your body doesn't have what it needs to function optimally and will slowly break down. Us 20-somethings are especially guilty of this because many of us don't cook and survive on pre-made and restaurant food, junk like Ramen, Kraft dinner, cereal, etc. That also brings us to another important point: some things are immediately damaging. Too much fat, sodium, refined carbohydrates, anything acid-forming or that inflames the digestive system and stresses your liver, etc harms the body. That's pretty much healthy eating 101. A word of wisdom, you're not going to learn what you need to know asking an internet forum.

    Your solution: study nutrition and then apply it to your diet. Go!
     
  4. hitomi

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    thanks Stabby!
     
  5. atla23

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    Its kinda hard when almost everything out there is bombarded with chemicals. The human race is being feminized with all the xenoestrogens that our environment contains, not just our food.

    Im thinking about bitching out a congressman but for all the good that will do so idk
     
  6. Stabby

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    Let's work on the basics first before bombarding her with speculative hysteria.
     
  7. atla23

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    oh i think if you start researching you will see. Its not just xenoestrogens but the natural ones as well. For example they inject estrogen itself into beef to fatten it up (estrogen is a fat storing hormone). The human species has simply not evolved to handle all this. I take it you've heard of breast cancer? This is an estrogen related problem.
     
  8. Stabby

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    It's all still inconclusive and there is little hard evidence. I was merely suggesting that it would be a good idea to focus on things that have been proven to be significant and important to health instead of freaking out over speculation. Concern is reasonable, but there are about a million more important issues facing health.
     
  9. FreshDacre

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  10. Stabby

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    Also known as good nutrition and diet. Which is a lot more complex than cramming random superfoods into your system.

    I've sent her a few private messages with some great information to get her started.
     
  11. LucidOne

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    Going organic is the best way to go in my opinion. Organic food is some of the purest food that you can buy, meaning less additivies, preservatives, added flavoring, etc. Some say that its more nutritional that their non organic counter parts. I still read the ingredients on organic food through, if applicable, as sometimes there are some questionable ingredients regardless. For example, natural flavor does not necessarily mean something thats healthy.

    Most food we eat, even if its considered healthy by the general public, is unhealthy in some way (pesticides on fruit anyone?). Always read the ingredients. Ingredients like MSG, aspartame, sucralose, fructose, glucose, dextrose, high fructose corn syrup, artificial AND natural ingredients, to name a few are very toxic to you. Do some some searches on the net if you need to see for yourself. Doctors have spoken out against such ingredients, but they're used because they save companies millions in food processing.

    Drink filtered water. Chlorine and floride is BAD for you, not to mention heavy minerals.
     
  12. LucidOne

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    You can't trust the FDA or other such organizations to tell you what and what isn't safe. Such organizations don't have our best interest in mind when they regulate food or drugs. It's mostly about the money. Yes hormones are added to animals, one reason is to make them mature faster. And yes it does affect humans that eat it. Children are maturing faster then ever. Nothing like a little added hormones to wreck havoc on our body chemistry.
     
  13. Stabby

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    You can't trust random websites who use ambiguous and dodgy language and don't have any actual proof either.

    There are plenty of people who hate the fact that some people eat meat. They've been known to go to some very radical measures to deter others from eating meat.

    Yes, some hormones in some meat probably sometimes have some effect on some people. Studies are inconclusive regarding the actual dangers, and like I said, concern is reasonable but I'm sick of alarmists making a big deal without any good reason to and treating their unfounded hysteria as reasonable and factual.

    And honestly, meat incorporated into a healthy diet is about 2 servings a day. In a week 2 of these days should be fish and only a maximum of 2 days per week should be beef. This is the generally agreed on optimal beef intake for reasons that have actually been proven. At this intake, nobody need be concerned about hormones in the slightest.

    Does everyone notice how I've been helpful to the threadstarter here? You can too!
     
  14. FreshDacre

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    The point is to get as much of these kinds of foods as you can because more of them do make a difference. Of course you still need to get all the other things that are important like whole grain. But yeah i don't know what you mean by "cramming random superfoods into your system" you make it sound like it doesn't matter. People who live off superfoods are going to live longer than you.
     
  15. Stabby

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    I use an acai berry blend, spirulina-based greens powder, fish oil, flax and chia seeds and anything else I can get my hands on. However I recognize that merely eating random high-nutrient food isn't enough.

    Also please stop using health and nutrition as a means of being condescending to people. It's annoying for me and there are much better forms of pretense available for you.
     
  16. FreshDacre

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    Of course its not enough you need regular excersise, plenty of water of course. I'm not trying to be condescending, i'm just trying to be a realist.
     
  17. lostminty

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    why is it not enough? what proof do you have?

    You know what will make you live longer, healthier and happier?

    being happy with your self and not stressing

    one of the longest lived women was a french wife who never worked, and only quit smoking because she was too blind to light he smokes...which were roll your owns.

    If eating what feels right makes you happy then you'll probably live a lot longer, but most of the foods out there are only a problem if they are irratating your digestive system.
     
  18. Stabby

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    I meant not enough if she was actually serious about getting the best possibility of NUTRITION to reap the greatest benefit from NUTRITION, and I know that she is because we exchanged some private messages. Don't try to change the subject, we're talking about optimal health here, and nutrition is the most important factor and uninfluenced by other factors, but influencing other factors. Optimal nutrition makes for less stress, more energy and better serotonin production in the brain which leads to better psychological health and exercise. But that's besides the point. It's ridiculous to try to belittle the role of nutrition in overall health just because you don't know very much about nutrition.

    What I was getting at is that while eating random superfoods in a haphazard way will yield better nutrition than eating non nutritious foods in a haphazard way, the greatest benefit to health comes from emphasizing the importance of the entire diet, of balance and of logical and scientifically sound practice. There are people who go to school for years to learn how to optimize nutritional benefit, and they learn a lot more than "here's a list of healthy things to eat. Go go go go!". When you're paying top dollar for food and supplements it's actually a wasteful practice. There are people who will pay nutritionists hundreds of dollars a month to put together meal plans for them. This is because nutrition is an extremely complex and demanding field where the more you know, the healthier you will be.

    This is why in my first post I said that an internet forum really really really isn't the best place to ask such a question.
     
  19. FreshDacre

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    Well i would like to consider myself a nutritionist, I have been studying it for many years. And my opinion as a nutritionist is that its better in the long run to eat super foods every day. Just try to get a variety of as many different kinds as you can to get all the possible nutrition. Look at the food pyramid, and then the food pyramids across the world. Grains are the most important thing in your diet other than water. Yes, it does take money to get quality food, so i will probably grow my own in the future.
    I snack on junk food all the time, but when i'm doing that i think to myself that there is no reason that i am doing this besides the fact that i enjoy the taste of it. When i eat something really healthy, i get psycologically satisfied, and i feel like i'm doing all i can for my body. In the end, you are made up of food completely. And the quality of your body depends on the quality of your overall diet.
     
  20. Stabby

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    That's good for you, I was just saying that your advice was downright poor for someone who considers himself so learned.
     

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