Stop Intelligence-Based Discrimination

Stand up and be a hero. Stop this unjust, cruel and unlawful form of discrimination now.

 

No if someone says something stupid I'm going to call them stupid.

 

Agreed.

 

When I saw the subject line, I was sure that this was going to be some sort of joke or parody. To some degree it's human nature for people to reward intelligence, you really can't stop that, IMO. But it's way over-rated, and I guess always will be. Nice post.

I'm reminded of a short essay I once read about "under-achievers." The author wrote about how he could have taken that second job and worked six or even seven days a week like a Good American Does. But instead he took his kids places. He could have stayed up late studying to graduate cum laude, but instead spent time with his terminally ill grandfather. On and on like that. At the end of it, he declared himself an "underachiever, and proud of it." His essay was prompted when a school disciplined a student for wearing a Bart Simpson tee shirt with that slogan on it.

 

You can't stop people from discriminating based on intelligence -- that's just stupid (pun intended). If I have a complicated job I need done then, barring some other qualifier, I'm going to take the most intelligent person I can get for the job. Discrimination is not necessarily bad: it's just choosing one person/thing over another because of qualities it possesses that the other doesn't. Intelligence is a perfectly valid quality upon which to make this judgment.

 

Me too! But if the first post is relating to people with learning difficulties then that is a whole different ballgame.

 

It's true that some degree of intelligence is inborn, however the huge degree of intelligence that is not IS a person's fault completely. The difference between my intelligence when I'm constantly reading, thinking and learning is huge compared to when I wasn't.

That being said, I won't discriminate against the mentally retarded. It really isn't their fault and I think that a good society should make accommodations for them and be nice to them. But with those dumbfucks with the potential to not be dumbfucks, they will feel my wrath.

And another thing. In the working world people are rewarded based on quality of work they do. If you can't do work worthy of reward, you will not be rewarded. Plain and simple. It's naive to think that anything else is reasonable. If you're not smart enough to be a chemist, you don't get to be a chemist. You get to go do manual labor or something more suited to you. This is reality. Tough shit. Discrimination based on something as meaningless as an IQ test is silly though.

 

Is there an "I am with stupid" republican T shirt.

 

There will always be people that seek to disqualify others. That's the game of elites. They wish to seek to prevent others from performing the work they do, based on whatever criteria they seek to make credible. It happens in every profession or occupation. Some always seek to keep others out. Why is it today occupations that just a few years ago were seen as just jobs are now now seen as careers or professions? Elitism. Soon we'll be required to have degrees to breathe.

 

With the exception of a few you get what you work for when it comes to intelligence. Most people in this society have the same oppurtunities to learn and educate themselves.

Saying something is stupid is discriminatory? Please, political correctness needs to fuck off and die.

How is rewarding intellect wrong? You could say rewarding anything is wrong if you're going down that road. By the same trail of thought you could even say getting praise for standing up to discrimination is discriminating against those who don't? See where it gets you (the answer is nowhere).

 

Agreed.

While I sympathize with the message of the post, I don't see where my finding fault with oh say...something as simple as a misguided method in a recipe I'm trying to use (I'm an adept cook, so that's my analogy) is 'stupid', is slandering those less fortunate than myself. If so, then just give me a list of words I can't say and hand me some duct tape for my mouth.

I've seriously had it, with political correctness.

 

intelligence (barring birth defects) is something one acquires. given that, fuck all the dumb people. they could just as easily been intelligent, too... but pop-culture is waaay too important. gotta keep the finger on that (insert current reality tv show craze) pulse, y'know?

 

We elect politicians to office without regard to their intelligence, and look where that's got us!

 

sorry but that is one of the stupidest things ive ever heard!!

 

What this seems to be one of those reverse strategies – pretend to be on the side of something you’re actually opposed to.

What better way to rile the ‘the world’s going to hell in a hand basket’ brigand than to pump out something that seems to confirm their own prejudices.

‘See’ they will screech waving such stuff in the air ‘this proves it – there are people out there that want to make us all dumber’

I mean it seems designed to push the right buttons

Getting ride of educational testing or more regulations and warning signs for even the most obvious risks.

These types of things are bemoaned regularly by the Daily Mail and Jeremy Clarkson.

‘Instead of assuming that physical risks are obvious those dumb do-gooders want to bring in legislation to….

Ohhh those do-gooders don’t want children to get ‘A’s’ for their essays anymore because those who don’t get ‘A’s’ feel hurt….

Oh these people say ‘all people are equal’ but I can’t run as fast as an Olympic sprinter….

And so on.

I remember racists using something similar a few years back – going on about how much black people should be helped over white people etc.

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I’ll address these two together because they’re basically saying the same thing

There seems to be the view that a lack of academic achievement is related to intelligence, rather than the level of education received.

But is that so

Pluck Shakespeare from his time and give him a high school test in algebra and he’d fail dismally even a test on his own works would be difficult.

Does that mean he is unintelligent?

If you took a person from an underdeveloped country who’s only had very limited education and make them sit a Harvard law degree exam and when they fail do you point at them and call the unintelligent?

Thing is I’ve met people without any formal educational qualifications that have been sharp as tacks and PhD’s that were as dim as an unlit cellar.

Does that mean that such exams and qualification of individuals are unnecessary, of course not. I want my doctor to have a medical degree and I want my plumber to know about pipes.

But do I think the doctor has a superior intellect because they have a ‘higher’ qualification than the plumber.

Well most likely I would not know or care, I just trust that the qualifications they have got will help me.

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Again there is an assumption

I’m an atheist who thinks the belief in ancient tribal gods is stupid, but I know some very qualified people with good academic achievements that are believer in such stupidity.

They know I think it stupid but then they probably think something similar about me for not believing.

In other words is the holding of what you consider as stupid ideas a mark of low intelligence?

To me it seems stupid to hold the belief that just because someone thinks differently to me they are by definition of lower intelligence to me, but that doesn’t mean that I might not think some of their ideas are stupid.

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I always find it funny when free market supporting right wingers like Jeremy Clarkson bemoan this trend because it’s actually based in right wing free market philosophy.

The thinking is that the best means of organising things is the free market, and what mechanism was there to remove dangerous products from the market?

By suing the manufacturer etc.

So to limit risk of being sued manufacturer etc have to limit their liability, by warning against what might seem like the obvious.

Now another part of the same philosophy is that self interest is paramount. So suing a doctor, local authority or company may not always be best for society but it can be profitable for the individual. And getting money through legal action is often seen as a clever move.

The point being that ‘obvious’ warnings are not there so much to protect the ‘dumb’ rather than to protect the manufacturer, company, local authority etc against the actions of those astute and clever enough to realise there is no warning.

Do you honestly thing all those lawyers making a mint out of such legal actions are all stupid and unintelligent?


So Conservationist I think these ideas are dumb and stupid and if you really believe in them I don’t think you’ve thought them through and if you are putting them up as a ‘reverse strategy’ I’d say that the ideas behind that are pretty dumb and stupid as well.

 

how so?

 

Yes I want to know too. A large degree of intelligence is dependent on what a person does with their mind throughout their life. If they're watching bad tv all day they're not going to be as smart as if they're reading, learning or even just thinking about intellectually demanding subjects.

Geez is it too much to ask for people to elaborate on their statements?

 

Spoken like a true stupid person. I tip my hat to thee. Fool.

You think there's no correllation between those who are intelligent and those who work hard for it?

 

Really depends on the context.