unsucessful phosphorus cook

Discussion in 'Drug Chemistry' started by cforsyth86, Oct 4, 2009.

  1. cforsyth86

    cforsyth86 Member

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    lets say that a phosphorus cook for a meth synth. was unsucessful. The recipie called for phosphorus, hydroiodic acid, and pseudoephedrine. The hydroiodic acid is supposedly made with phosphorus, iodine crystals, and water. So, in a jar, pseudoephedrine, phosphorus, iodine, and a little water arencooked with a condenser. The cook looked like a messy reddish purple grayish color with chunks of the phosphorus floating around. After cooking for about 2 hours, the phosphorus was filtered out, xylene and a small mixture of water and lye crystals were added and shook it up. After this, some of the xylene layer was siphoned into another glass with HCl gas bubbled through it and nothing fluffed. One of my ex girlfriends would cook every now and then and never added water to the cook that I remember and she kept her phosphorus wrapped in a coffee filter while cooking. The sulfuric acid thats used in the unsucessful cook to make HCl gas says virgin on the bottle as it was the only thing available at the time. Would that keep the meth from fluffing or is something not being done right? No PH strips were at hand to check if the cook was neutral or not. Any input is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. LSDMIKE

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    you think it's the hcl gas thats not making your meth from fluffing?
    if you do have meth oil put it in the fridge next day meth crystallize this must only
    be for smoking not eating..Even better ask your ex girlfriend how to do it coz i don't
    make drugs.
     
  3. cforsyth86

    cforsyth86 Member

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    I dont talk to her shes a crazy bitch. anyway hopefully there is some meth oil in there. the hcl gas is made from virgin sulfuric acid so im thinking since its virgin it would keep it from fluffingm but i never said i cooked it. its just hypothetical. i dont cook drugs either thanks though
     
  4. cforsyth86

    cforsyth86 Member

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    the addition of water before the cook even necessary? cant you cook with just iodine, phosphorus, and pseudoephedrine?
     
  5. certainful

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    the cook should last a lot longer than 2 hours. try 24 hours. either way you should have had something in the non polar. at least sudo. it takes a lot of lye to raise the ph of the reaction mixture to 14 (that's how high it has to be to push the shit out of the water and into the non-polar) check this out http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/worlock/toc.html#Table
     
  6. MrDot

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    5-0, wooop woooop.
     
  7. cforsyth86

    cforsyth86 Member

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    thanks everybody
     
  8. LSDMIKE

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    run :D
     
  9. cforsyth86

    cforsyth86 Member

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    they gotta have a reason to come first
     
  10. fryingsquirrel

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    While it's correct a long wet should run 24 hours (a short dry is much quicker) their is still a problem with your gassing, even unreacted pseudo should gas out.
     
  11. cforsyth86

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    cool. thats what i thought about the gas. i guess virgin sulfuric acid does make a difference.
     
  12. certainful

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    dude. it's not your gas. you didn't add enough lye to the water to push the sudo into the nonpolar.
     
  13. cforsyth86

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    Cool i will remember that. the amount of lye to be used wasnt known for sure and didnt want to over do it. more lye was added with no luck causing me to believe it was the gas
     
  14. certainful

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    Did you try titration then? I'm still curious if you have a high enough ph. are you using test paper or red cabbage or anything? if not than just go a head and load that water with naoh until it turns a couldy white color and stays that way. you might even see tiny bubbles of freebase moving from the water into the nonpolar. Personally I think you're better off just titrating anywayz. just chuck in a bit of hcl/h2o, shake the crap out of it then drain off the water, evaporate and do it again.
    keep in mind you need a ph of at least 12.8 to turn meth into a freebase which takes a lot of lye. when adding the acid you can do so a bit more sparingly but when adding the base just go crazy.
     
  15. cforsyth86

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    Ok so when doing a dry cook you just dump everything in? or can you keep phosphorus wrapped in its filter paper?
     
  16. Baboon smkr

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    Can you use tin foil and Muriatic acid to gas it out ????
     
  17. nutshelled

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    if u have oil and ph strips u dont have to gas it at all, just drip your acid slowly with an eye dropper.
     
  18. Baboon smkr

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    When and why do you gas??
     
  19. fryingsquirrel

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    It the last step. At that point you have the freebase of meth (or whatever) dissolved in a NP solvent. The gas converts this to the salt, which is not soluble in such solvents. So it falls out like snowflakes, and can be filtered out.
     

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