just meditating on God´s love and Spirit! if we are living through His Spirit, we are not under the law but under grace! WOW.... God is so GOOD for us! hope that many will get to know HIS LOVE!!! love and peace to all hippie brothers and sisters!
I been meditating lately too. It truly does work wonders for the entire body emotionally, spiritually, mentally and even physically.
Peace P.K.J., I think that sadly alot of Christians take that quote from the Bible and ignore other things said in the Bible. Like this Scripture for instance: Rom. 6:1-2: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 6:1-2&version=KJV (can't vouche that Biblegateway.com's site is error proof so verification is recommended.) Rom. 6:1-2 brings this Scripture to my mind even though I am not a believer in any prophet lol: Matt. 7:21-23: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 7:21-23&version=KJV. I think that being under grace means that Christians PAST sins (sins done before accepting Christ) will not be punished...I don't think it means that Christians are free to keep on sinning after accepting Christ. That would be Satan's paradise. "I can keep on raising hell as long as I accept Christ?"
I think you are exactly right in that. When someone becomes a Christian, they ask for forgiveness, in some sort of variation of a Sinner's Payer which will wipe clean their past sins clear, but that doesn't give a free run thereon, whatever sins they make after becoming a Christian still need to be accounted for.
We may describe repentance as a reorientation of the pentacle of the senses. Whereas previously we look to pleasure the senses, see, hear, touch, smell, taste, we change their mission to the seeking of truth. We will be forever frustrated by saying I'm sorry, I will try not do it again. That is looking for trouble.
That very much depends on what you find of pleasure in the first place though. If I were to go into a shop and steal a CD or a game, yes I'd probably feel good knowing that I'd got a free game, but we as people know it's not the right thing to do and I shouldn't feel any frustration within myself for knowing that it's wrong and to try never to do it again. Most things we enjoy doing aren't a sin, unless it is in excess. For example, there is nothing wrong with enjoying a glass of wine. The problem lies with drunkenness which is a sin. But what real enjoyment is there to be had in being blind drunk anyway? I've never found the pleasure in being so plastered I can barely stand. To me it's stupidity, not pleasure.
Sin is not a thing, it is a mistake in perception. The pleasure of our senses is not that a, "thing", tastes good but that it creates an overall sense of pleasure. This is how sin occurs: We are commanded not to kill. Someone comes to kill us and we say we must protect our children. We kill them, a "justified" killing. HOWEVER..........Do not be afraid of those that kill the body! The killing is not indeed justified, we had been duped into sinning, we had yielded to temptation to break a commandment. Temptation is the temptation to overlook the truth. We see the words do not kill, but we tell ourselves it does not mean what it says.
The saying is all sins are forgiven, save for blaspheme against the Holy Spirit. This is because to deny the Holy Spirit is to deny the only voice that can light our way to the truth. We are considering things here as though Jesus had accomplished nothing at all, with every thing up for grabs. To avoid sin is in direct contradiction with love God with all your mind, heart and strength. The saying is sin no more. Perception is seeing things, and it is also looking for things. Our charge: Seek not for yourself treasures on earth. But I really want that xbox. Fear not, it is I. In every situation that confronts you, true authority is present. Look for it, use it. We absolve ourselves as well as our brother if we say simply, I love you brother instead of you have offended me asshole.
Catholic theology of confession states that these sins (known as mortal or grave sins) cut oneself off from God and require the Sacrament of Penance for reconciliation with God and the community. Venial sins (those done without knowledge of their gravity or that are not as serious as say, first degree murder) are still good to confess because it is through this process that we confront the temporal effects of sin.
Catholic theology states those things. Jesus is quoted as saying something else. Christ means, true authority.
Sounds very Catholic teaching, the difference between knowingly sinning and not. But actually I'd agree with some part of it. I'm sure a person cannot be held responsible for committing a sin without knowing what they are doing is wrong. For that case a newborn baby can't be expected to be responsible for sinning because they can't know wrong from right. But what I would disagree with is that sinning is forbidden. Sinning is a normal part of life, we are all human, and by forbidding humans to sin is to deny us of our own state of humanity. We all sin, and nothing can ever change that in us as we are all imperfect. The difference is that we should acknowledge our faults and wrongdoings, seek forgiveness and try and learn from our mistakes. Of course if someone does not know what they are doing is wrong it is probably a different matter, but when the Bible teaches us that the Law is written on our hearts (that is, our conscience) you would expect them to know simply from their own conscience that something is either right or wrong, even if they don't know if it is a sin.
I disagree, on one level. Sinning without knowing it is wrong, or someone coerced into sin is not considered a sin. Telling a white lie like "I got stuck in traffic" when you really slept in late is a sin and we are held accountable for them. just not to the same degree as say, mass murder or malicious slander, or adultery. I also agree with he semantics of this reply. It is not that mortal sins are forbidden, but that they need to be rectified as they are in direct opposition to God. We all sin, mostly venial, but occasionally mortal. honeyfudge, could you maybe expand on this (if you want) in my thread about confessions. I promise I will not attempt any apologetic (at least openly, ) until the second page of the thread. I am honestly interested in how other confess any sins .
I think you are right there. I think you are right in saying not all sin is equal. But I would still make the point that a young child, or a baby, or basically anyone who cannot make the distinction between right and wrong should not be held accountable for their wrongdoings. I do not disagree with this. Only we probably have different ways of trying to rectify our sins, since we hold different faiths. I can do that, certainly. What is the link to your thread on confessions?
Yeah, I think on the fort point we are in total agreement, but that I expanded it in terms of degrees of sin (of which all are despicable in god's eyes, but the effects of which vary). There is one thing to which we are all held accountable--and that is what is known as Original sin. To your second point, that is why I am interested in types of confession to God. http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=382560&f=467 My confession thread.
From honeyfugle, "I think you are right there. I think you are right in saying not all sin is equal. But I would still make the point that a young child, or a baby, or basically anyone who cannot make the distinction between right and wrong should not be held accountable for their wrongdoings." It is in this innocent inability to make a distinction between right and wrong, that heaven becomes accessible to us. Unless you become as these, you will not enter. This is not an unused or uninformed ability that any of us possess. It is not an ability at all. The only thing it gives you the ability to do is bear false witness against your neighbor as yourself. It is in fact a lie ability.
LOL. Some Scriptures (capitalized because though I'm not a believer in any prophet, I respect others' beliefs...) that you might want to look at again...: ("...sins that are PAST...":) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+3:25&version=KJV http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10:26&version=KJV http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians+15:34&version=KJV http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Timothy+5:20&version=KJV http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+6:15&version=KJV If one would try to bring up other Scriptures, those Scriptures would obviously have to fit the context of all Scriptures, including these. I must give credit to religious teachers that I've heard for this viewpoint. I didn't come up with it myself AT ALL... Peace, IANABIAP (I am not a believer in any prophet.)
Only to avoid fornication. St Paul also writes: It is good for a man not to touch a woman...For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. 1 Corinthians 7:1 and 7 KJV The Catholic Church in its universality has plenty of married priests. Eastern Rite Catholic men are free to be ordained to the priesthood. Married Anglican/Episcopal priests may be admitted to the Roman Catholic priesthood. The Vatican recently announced the release of an Apostolic Constitution (the most binding article in the church for Canon Law) that will create new structures for entire traditional Anglican communities to join the Catholic Church and retain their unique Anglican Use Rite. At least on the surface for the first long while this will include many married priests. Also, it is not the theology (nor doctrine, nor dogma) that priests must take a vow of celibacy, but a discipline.
Every man is free to choose to have a wife. No one is forced into celibacy. Once they choose to be celibate, they must forfeit their lives to God as Paul wrote. Also, I say again. It is best for us all to remain virgins and single. This would prove difficult for most people, so Paul gives in, so that people are free to marry, but it is to prevent fornication.
