Those Accused of Rape: Guilty until proven innocent

Council Director Wins Compensation for Wrongful Termination in Apparently False Rape Claim
October 1st, 2009 by Robert Franklin, Esq.

This piece gives readers a pretty good idea of how seriously the rights of the accused are sometimes taken in rape allegations (Daily Mail, 9/23/09).

The man in this case is known only as Mr. A and his accuser only as Ms. X. She went to the police with a graphic tale of months of sexual harrassment by Mr. X which culminated in rape inside a public bathroom with his forearm across her throat.

Mr. X was a senior council director and the police went to his superior with the rape story. They also arrested Mr. A. But a funny thing happened on the way to convicting Mr. A of rape - Ms. X refused to give a formal statement to the police. When a tribunal heard the matter, she refused to testify. The police, citing lack of evidence, dropped the case.

But the council, Mr. A's employer, didn't. They fired him on the spot, and when he requested a hearing to contest his firing sent him a written statement which read in part,

'The reason for your immediate dismissal is that I believe that you have, in all probability, raped and sexually, physically and mentally assaulted, harassed and abused X.

'My belief is based upon recent discussions that I have had with X who has advised me of your actions and behaviour towards her since January of this year.

'In most potential disciplinary situations, I would envisage offering the alleged perpetrator a hearing to respond to allegations and provide his/her account before reaching any decision

'Were I to follow that course in this matter, I would expect you to categorically deny the allegations. The decision I would have to make would be whether or not to believe X.'

Yes, there was a time that a person would be afforded an opportunity to defend himself, to tell his side of the story. After all, the council's chief executive made it clear that he had met several times with Ms. X, so why not meet at least once with Mr. A? Well, the letter makes it obvious. Mr. A would just deny the allegations and then the chief would have to figure out who to believe. Better by far to talk to just one, believe one and fire the other. Due process of law can be such a bother!

Having been sacked by the council on nothing more than the private say-so of Ms. X, who declined to give a statement to the police or give testimony at the tribunal, Mr. A sued the council and won £25,000 in damages for wrongful termination.

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i went out drinking with a friend of mine's girlfriend and we went back to her place and ended up hooking up briefly... we were both extremely intoxicated. she asked me to leave. then i hung out with her the next day and everything seemed fine (she was joking about how drunk we all were), but I didn't bring up what happened b/c I knew it would be an awkward conversation. then the next day she was all of a sudden accusing me of a sexual assault. she told her boyfriend and the whole thing is a mess now. I've spoken to her a couple of times and she even threated to press charges, but I could tell she was blowing smoke. I can also pretty much tell she knows she is full of crap... but she is sticking to her guns and its ruining a bunch of my friendships, especially with her boyfriend. I did an apology and tried to smooth things over but I'm not sure that was the best thing rather than just confronting the lie head on.

What should I do? Should I challenge her on it or just avoid her and hope it blows over? It really pisses me off though because I am basically getting slandered b/c her boyfriend is just assuming its true.

 

the letters don't remain consistent.

you might want to edit that.

otherwise, yes, rape allegations are shit.

 

There is not much you can do in this situation, especially with the employer. I was fired from a job once where the woman who accused of me harassing her made up things that couldn't possibly be true as I NEVER HAD CONTACT WITH HER AT WORK. My employer knew this as well, but they would rather fire a man than risk telling the woman she's full of shit and having her go to the state to take it even further. Of course, it is all just "she said-he said", but if you are a male and are accused in any way, shape, or form of sexual harassment/assault, you can kiss your job or freedom goodbye.

(Oh, the reason the lady reported me for harassment is because she would not provide her reports to her superior, which were supposed to come to me for sales programs. When she was called out numerous times for failing to provide the reports on time(because I had to tell her supervisor, who gave her the ultimatum of completing her tasks on time, or be fired) she filed the claim. Now, she doesn't have to submit those reports for sales programs because the company that the sales program was developed for took their business elsewhere once I was gone. She really worked the system on this one and got exactly what she wanted, her same pay with less responsibility. She was truly one of the ugliest and despicable people I have ever had the displeasure of meeting. 400 lbs.(literally) of undeniably ugly female.)

 

and this is why accused rapists get fucked over, because who is going to tell a semi-hysterical woman that they are wrong or lying about something as serious as rape?... I would say that the only option for someone who is indeed innocent is to be respectful, confident, and prepared to go to court and defend them self against EVIDENCE and not allegations

 

Wife Says 'He Never Put One Hand on Me,' but DV Charge Takes NY Anchorman off Air
November 1st, 2009 by Robert Franklin, Esq.

It's a continuing saga. The mere allegation of domestic violence can lead to dire consequences even if disproven, even if recanted by the accuser.

In this case, it's high profile TV anchorman Dominic Carter of NY1 television (New York Daily News, 10/29/09). He's one of their most-watched news anchors, but he's been yanked off the air. Why? Because over a year ago, his wife accused him of DV. Never mind that she sent a letter to prosecutors a month later saying,

"I have to set the record straight. My husband never put one hand on me."

Marilyn Carter backed up those words in court on Thursday, October 29th, telling Justice Arnold Etelson that she had lied in claiming Dominic had attacked her. But despite her withdrawal of her claims, Dominic Carter was taken off the air and placed on an extended leave of absence the same day his wife gave her testimony exonerating him. "Dominic will not be appearing on New York One," said general manager Steve Paulus.

Reading the whole article, Marilyn Carter's backup story - that she was beaten by a day laborer - doesn't sound overly plausible either. So when Dominic responded to a question about exactly what had happened this way,

"There are certain things that I can't say because it's personal and private and I don't want to destroy my wife's character,"

it suggests a lot, but says little. Of course his wife may have been telling the truth in the first place and thought better of it when she cooled down and figured out that she was in the process of destroying her husband's career. That's the same career that may be her meal ticket.

But the fact is, we'll never know what happened. That's because only two or possibly three people were present and the day laborer won't be found because Marilyn Carter says she doesn't remember his name. That leaves her and her husband, and they're not talking.

What we do know is that, in a case in which the complainant has recanted both in writing and under oath in court, the accused has at least temporarily lost his job. Perhaps more important to Carter, though, is his reputation. A highly-respected newsman, his reputation as trustworthy is all-important to him. As he told the court, "In the court of public opinion, if I leave here without an opinion, my career is over."

Would an allegation of car theft that the alleged victim admitted was made up be sufficient to place Dominic Carter under a cloud? What about a DUI that the officer admitted he fabricated? Would anyone even notice?

But an allegation of DV - even one that's been recanted twice - is enough to ruin a man's career.

It's the society we live in. Is it the society we want?

Thanks to Jeremy for the heads-up.

 

your a scum that fucked his buddies chick...you ruined the relationship,not her

wtf did you think would happon when 2 scum cheaters hook up

 

Your right, he did ruin the relationship. Of course so did she.

 

dont they get a segment on "The Insider?" http://www.theinsider.com

 

It isn't just rape cases where one is guilty until proven innocent. That's how it is will all criminal charges. It's always been guilty until proven innocent despite what we're taught in our classes about government and the judicial system. You have to prove to the court that you didn't commit the action you're charged with doing.

 

Depends, on one hand this is true since generally prosecutors threaten people with more jail time if convicted on trial in order to make them take a deal. On the flip side if you choose a jury trial, you only need to provide enough reasonable doubt for one juror to vote nay.

 

Hide your kids
Hide your wife
And hide your husbands

 

That's bull, she did just as much as he did. I've been in the same situation as him and when you're completely tanked and they are completely tanked blame rests on both pairs of shoulders.

I'm just lucky that I've known the guy she was with for a long time and they knew that isn't in my personality at all. Valued his friendship and all.

 

i'll give you that..it does rest on both their shoulders...but buddy has to take the blame for HIS OWN ruined relationship with his friend...the girl has to take the blame for HER OWN ruined relationship....and i dont buy the crap about being too drunk...thats a weak excuse for weak character....however...i made 'my' op in this thread when i was a rookie on this site and at the time did not realize i was derailing from 'the' op.....and no, i was not too drunk....:mickey:

 

i let me friends girlfriend give me a bj when pissed, it happens.

 

Can't rape the willing....

 

Can I ask if you've ever been in the situation before? It's kind of hard to say no to a naked girl who wants to sleep with you when you're completely blitzed, even IF she is dating your good friend. It's a really shitty thing to do, but the temptation. Wowzah

 

What do you think should be done when someone, man or woman, wrongfully accuses their spouse/BF or GF of raping them?

 

They should be prosecuted.

 

I say they should be given the same sentence their SO/spouse/victim would have gotten.