Christians, do you feel any responsibility for others rejecting Christ?

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  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    And you are still making it up as you go along.
     
  2. thedope

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    I do not deny it and I am deeply grateful for your role in making it so. For helping to illuminate the nature of man's assault on his brother, the crucifixion of the son of man. I am is the surname we inherit from our creator, the voice from the burning bush. I am the Alpha and the Omega. The first and the last. I am the created and the creator.

    Moses broke the law. Smashed the tablets. God restored the law, and the people were not allowed to speak his name. Jesus came to fulfill the law. He said whatever you ask in my name shall be done for you. He bears his father's name. I am the way, the truth and the life.
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

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    :smilielol5: So you admit to just making it all up.
    I am is not a name of any kind, it's God telling what he's going to do, not what his name is.

    For thousand of years God's people spoke God's name, until the superstition of the Jews made it "unlawful" to say his name and the correct pronunciation was lost.
     
  4. thedope

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    Having said all that, the words I speak are exactly that. Words. Words are symbols of conditions. Condition means to speak with. Words instruct us because we speak the abundance in our hearts. There is nothing magical or mystical in the things we do. We may lay aside our magical beliefs and take delight in the practice of our miraculous nature.
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

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    Every thing we do is magical or mystical, It's just some people don't realize it.
     
  6. J.Q.

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    What is even the point behind the drawn out debate about child molestation?

    You introduced the term "open minded" to it, not me.

    Am I really supposed to look thru a list of emotions and find one that describes how I feel about kids being molested? If so, what bearing would that have on anything? The only difference between us here is I see God as more Loving than you do. You see God as someone to fear, I see God as someone that would never hurt anyone, no matter what they do. There's no fear or hate for anything needed in my relationship with God.

    And how can you possibly be ambivalent to something you think should be punished?

    This is how I know you have very little education beyond a high school level, if any at all.
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

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    It's really interesting how far you'll go to avoid answering a few simple questions, even to the point of name calling, again.

    Is your philosophy so fragile that it can't stand up to a few questions?

    Fascinating. :D
     
  8. J.Q.

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    Oh really, I called you a name?

    And if you asked someone how do they feel about a crime and they say they feel it's a crime and it should be punished, you wouldn't consider that a valid answer?

    You're just beating a dead horse simply because I said God wouldn't want you to hate anything. You cannot even begin to explain to me why an all Loving God would tell you to do so. And because of that you would rather talk about kids being molested.

    Really, you're mad I hurt your feelings in a past debate. That's clear as day. You're even beginning to see things that aren't there such as name calling, prolly having flashbacks of when I hurt your feelings before.

    Bottom line is you think fear and hate is necessary in your relationship with God and I don't. And you think hate is an emotion that can produce positive results which even further lets me know where your education level is at.
     
  9. Rudenoodle

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    If I truly believed that acceptance of Jesus Christ was the only option other than painful torment eternal I would be shouting on the streets trying to save as many people as possible from inevitable pain that is to come unto them in the "afterlife."


    It's because of the lack of proselytizing in Christianity that you can witness it's decline, Christians no longer care enough about the "souls" of us wretches who choose to not believe in there supposed god and to embarrass themselves by shouting like lunatics in an attempt to save there fellow brothers from torment, who can blame them really?
     
  10. thedope

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    The peace of God.
     
  11. Rudenoodle

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    Can you elaborate on this a bit, I don't quite grasp what your meaning is.
     
  12. thedope

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    Nothing real can be threatened, nothing real is threatening. God is real, the only thing that can be threatened are our illusions. Peace of God.
     
  13. Rudenoodle

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    Thank you for the white noise.
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

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    A little slow on the up take aren't you? :D
     
  15. thedope

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    I mean that I recognize that you see they are afraid, that there is no fear involved in salvation. That the comfort they have found suffices for them and they no longer give loving care to their lives. The peace of God is the recognition that if God is real, then there is nothing to fear. Fear is a liar.
     
  16. Rudenoodle

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    Can you elaborate your statement for me, as you said I am a little slow on the uptake.
     
  17. thedope

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    Hi, I've been out.
     
  18. Rudenoodle

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    Thank you for the white noise, again...

    What are your views on proselytizing?
     
  19. thedope

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    I am sharing with every one right now, my experiences, my understandings, my depravities. My relationship with God. I consider this conversation Holy Communion. I don't have a view on it, I do it.
     
  20. Rudenoodle

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    If you don't have a view on it how can you do it?

    Do you believe that a self proclaimed Christian who does not proselytize is in error when it comes to their "religious duties" and for that matter do you believe that those who are so inclined to consider themselves Christians are expected to at least attempt to convert others in order to show them the glory of god?

    What about the Christians of a vague faith that seem to nit pick throughout the bible and in a very literal way simply choose to accept some thing's as (pardon the pun) kosher while casting off what does not fit comfortably with there chosen life style?

    I'd also like to add that these are real questions that I am asking and I don't mean for them to sound crude or overtly offensive, I realize it's hard to convey sarcasm or the lack thereof through written text.
     

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