2ce .... how often is safe(relatively safe :D)?

Is every 3-4 day ok? Not for a long time, intend to stop using it that often next weekend...

After I stop being lets say sick on it... cold, hot, pain,heavy breathing, twitching and other shit... Everything LSD would never do... On LSD I never felt anything bad happening in my body(and of course even if I would, it would not be real... LSD is so healthy )... Last time 2c-e didn't feel bad for body at all...feeling sick before was I believe mostly psychosomatic...As there is no much logic that 2c-e is more unhealthy than alcohol...day after I feel almost perfectly fine... Not saying it's not stupid doing it often..

And 2c-e at doses under 20(18)mg usually brings practically no mindfuck (find that stupid word but you know what I mean)..

Can't stop using it...lol... Moment it stops(duration is very short compared to LSD) I could take more... I will increase dose a lot now when I feel safe but this way it feels so.... so nice... Also I didn't felt any tolerance...

Also can't see how people can compare dose of 18mg of 2c-e with practically any dose of LSD... I read some dude writing how it is stronger than 150 mics of LSD..... yeah right... not even close... mind aspect is weaker than 90< mics of LSD.. and much, much, much weaker than 20mg of 4-aco-DMT... But still stronger from what I believe was 30-40mg of 2c-b. But visuals are pretty intense, not so complex.. Have in mind I still didn't took big dose.. I know it will become much more intense..

Not saying it's not great drug but at least for now I don't see much similarity with LSD but that's not even what I'm looking with 2c-e.. But it seems many people are looking exactly that...

Have need to overdo it little more cuz it is again giving me feeling I can push the limit a lot with psychedelics and cuz tripping on it is usually so easy and fun..

I will again start using other psychedelics very soon.... But this doses of 2c-e for me are like a little lazy and not very deep but nice psychedelic vacation...lol..

So is anyone experienced with doing it more than what is usually consider clever...lol...

Peace...

 

Ive come to the conclusion that 2ce effects most everyone differently.

 

i think every 3 or 4 days is pretty excessive. try to limit to once a month or less.

18mg for me is pretty intense. more so than a hit or two of acid.
i've only tried up to 20 mg and i think that's enough for me.

 

I don't say 18mg is not intense... You compare it to 2 hits of acid... it depends who strong is your hit...

What I believe was 75-90mics(1 not so strong hit) is much more cosmic and much more mindfuck than 18mg of 2c-e... But visuals where let's say stronger but not more complex on 18mg of 2c-e....

Now I'm on 11mg of 2c-e and it's fun ...

Fucking, fucking 2c-e... Now I want to take 18mg...lol... it's like some fucking candy for me ... In nice way ...

It can not fuck up my vascular system, right? That's all I need to know... .lol...

Will take it next weekend and than try to limit it 2 or less times a month depending how much of other good stuff I have

 

No really I have feeling 2c-e is not unhealthy at all .. Please now confirm you experience everyone else ..

 

i actually have tried this chem orally yet. i think i will in about 2 weeks.
ive only snorted it and the more i snort the worse the pain but the better the trip.
the time i snorted15-18mg was the best so far.
when i try it orally ill try at least 25mg i think

 

it's pretty safe...there's a report of a person snorting 120 mg and surviving, but i think using almost any chemical every 3-4 days is excessive.

i tripped twice last weekend [2c-b on friday, low dose 2c-e on sunday] and it was CRAZY...

i'm not against tripping a few days in a row, but afterword i make a point to take a week or 2 off...

THAT is only when i'm taking psychedelics...i usually do that for a while, then take a break for a month or 2...my use lately has been a bit excessive, but i don't feel that my 2c-x experiences have done much at all compared to rolling a few times [both at low doses].

though 2c-e doesn't seem to physically harm a person, HPPD is always a possibility.

i can empathize; it's hard for me not to take 2c-c a few times a week, but if i'm using it that often, i find it's not nearly as magical...i'm just trippen again.

 

I would be somewhat careful.
Don't go on any long binges doing it every 3-4 days. I know of at least one other member who used to do 50-60mg every 2-3 days when he had 2ce, but those binges would only last two or three weeks, and it was a while before he would do another one.

Let's just not forget what happened to 2cesearwild..

 

doing it that often will result in more and more diminished effects each time, thus requiring a higher dosage and not being nearly as productive. If you can exercise a little self control you'll get more out of your experiences as well as more bang for your buck. Also, most 5HTxx receptor agonists cause at least some vasoconstriction, so probably not the best for your circulatory system. Also, metabolism of 2c-x's may produce free radicals, which probably contribute to certain types of cancer. Infrequent use would likely be inconsequential, but as often as you're speaking of could cause problems down the road. If you must do it that often, take anti-oxidant supplements regularly.

 

vasoconstriction - one of worst words ever ....

But than again even nicotine causes it and so many people use it daily... so it's not such a big deal...


Of course I do not intend to continue using it that often.. But it's so fun and nice ... Don't take my candy away...lol...

 

nice post.

how often would YOU say is infrequent enough to likely be inconsequential?

 

so one can buy these antioxidant supplements anywhere correct?

cus i myself like 2ce...

 

these are the ones you want
http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v04n1/04134pea.html

 

so does anyone on here take antioxdants?

 

i take vitamin c pretty much daily. i make sure to take some before i trip. i also drink tea somewhat regularly.