okay i hear its pretty good from what ive read but man how much is it man cuz i live in Tennessee and its legal in georgia and ive been dying to fucking try it man so any tips, prices, what i should do on it, anything would be appreciated thanks.
I haven't had many experiences with salvia but it is something I'd recommend trying at least once. The great thing about it is if you don't like it the 'high' goes away very quickly. I wouldn't really compare it much to psychedelics in my own experience. There is visuals, I won't deny that but it felt very dissociative to me.
I wouldn't call it "fun" or anything. You look like a retard on it... For me it was very intense and about 1 minute.
My experience on Salvia was not good at all. I know it's classified as a psychedelic, but I didn't get the same feeling on it that I got from LSD or Mushrooms. I felt more dissociated, like I was in a permanent state of being (which was not fun by the way). I didn't like it, but then again, the environment in which I smoked it was not the best, I was irresponsible with it. My friend on the other hand had an amazing time and thought like he was in a different dimension or something. The ratio of good experiences to bad experiences though I feel is skewed towards bad. I second Kobilica and say try to get some DMT, I can't speak from experience, but I've heard it's way more positive than salvia.
yeah i believe salvia is even classified as a dissociative, technically. price depends on where you are, i got 1/2 gram of 12x for like $18, but that's in the northern US so i can't say how much it'll be where you are. obviously have a sitter, make sure you'll be able to make noise if you need to (as in, don't do it while your parents are asleep in the next room, etc). as for what to do on it, there's really not much you can do. just have a bunch of pillows or a bed to fall back on, and someone to hand the bong/pipe off to when your world starts getting ripped apart.
it was nuts! it hit me quick, literally, to the back of the chair and everything spiralled away. my friend asked me "are you ok?" which echoed and faded and I cant explain it, but everything was Ernie and Big Bird. Ernie's striped shirt pattern took over the room and I felt the presence of Big Bird and Ernie. another time I tried it, my friend kept walking back and forth and the furniture he kept walking passed turned into a large rubber band which kept bouncing my friend back and forth. i tried to verbally explain to everyone in the room what I saw but all that came out of me was laughter and gibberish. oh and forgot to add, both times lasted under 5 minutes, but it felt like hours
I have tried it a few times before. Not something i would spend money on though.. Its a nice experience i say you shoud try it.
Yea, thats basically what i thought. I was smoking dro with it so i was feeling good. It was pretty cool and i couldn't stop laughing.
okay so ive got some good reviews and some not so great so my only question is how much should i buy of it, is it good to try it more after ive already "tripped" or is it just a waste of my time?
Nothing is a waste of time, especially if you have not yet experienced it. I have tried salvia 3 times, the first was crap salvia and it just made me feel like shit. The second and third times I smoked it were pretty fucked, and the 'trip' is definitely something different. It is so short lasted that it is hard to actually give an opinion or describe it, but try it yourself and see waht you think. I'd buy a gram, that should give you like 2 or 3 trips.
Salvia is in a league all it’s own. That’s half the reason it’s still legal it is chemically unlike anything out there such as LSD or Mushrooms, so by current law it’s legal. I have done it a few times, and it’s very intense but not something I have enjoyed in the same way as more tractional psychedelics. I only mildly enjoyed it once. Then another time the TV told me I was going to die, and that got a little unpleasant. It’s worth a try one time I would say because it is going to be fully illegal in a few years most likely. Then if you want it you find some shady dealer who says it’s salvia but it’s really PCP on weed or who knows what.
Yeah, I remember blowing a huge hit out and it was an instant freak out. Next thing I knew I was almost totally normal again.
Well honestly man, Its not a drug you should use recreationally. Its something you would use if your religious or just looking to explore your mind. You should do it in a dark room with no loud noises of any kind. Also I recommend you have a sitter present with you at all times to make sure your not sticking your tongue in a electrical socket. You should be able to get some really easily from a online website or from your local porn shop. If you don't like the feeling of being out your body, then you really shouldn't try this drug. But other than that, if you do like it, I'm pretty sure you will be very impressed. But, The high only last a couple of minutes depending on the extract you have. God Bless m8!
There are a lot of people that seem to pop their head in this section just to see what's going on, and that's where you get a lot of the "Do DMT/acid/shrooms instead"..salvia is a whole different drug. If you're looking for the effects of DMT acid or shrooms, buy DMT acid or shrooms. Salvia is on a different level than any of the three and makes those drug's "ego-loss" seem about the same as waking up from a 20 minute nap. Here it's sold as a gram, and whoever said that should get you 2 or 3 trips..it's more like 8-10. It's definitely not a waste, once you trip for the first time you may have absolutely no problem putting that vile away for years and years like it's Jumanji or some shit, but you'll eventually be curious enough to go back. The length of the trip is often complained about but is probably one of the best parts. It gives just enough time for you to completely freak out in absolute confusion and helplessness, and quickly snaps you back, the afterglow and forthcoming reflection on the experience is amazing. And during the trip itself, you will not know how much time is passing. There will be no such thing as time. Like I said, being drenched in sweat, confused, scared, possibly still seeing objects moving/morphing/staring at you, you probably won't want to just pack another bowl of it and trip again. It may take days. But I can promise you this, the trip you experience will grow on you and you will recollect and understand details of it as more time goes on. That's another huge factor in the curiosity behind wanting to go back. Damn, I could talk about this for days.
man i totally fucking agree. especially with your second paragraph. dude, LOL :smilielol5: i've always viewed salvia as a shamanic drug. it's for personal uses, seeking aid. the whole experience was originally intended around healing actually. the salvia godess is a healing spirit. but because it is a 'shamanic' drug it doesn't effect everyone equally. some people aren't even receptive to salvia at all, and just won't trip. other people are somewhat receptive to it but won't be able to fully reach it's depths. i guess it all depends on how attuned to that kind of thing you are. but, that said, i pretty much agree with aaarce's description of what it is like. i wrote a trip report a little while ago right after one of my salvia trips. here is what salvia is like for me: -- Eclipse of the Soul -- So during a time in my life when i was lacking the ability, wisdom, and confidence to proceed, i turned to salvia for help. I had told myself that that by a certain date then i would turn to salvia, and see what insights or guidance it might give me. Well, the time had passed so i was just waiting for the right opportunity to smoke the plant. One night no one was at my house, and there were no distracting noises from the surrounding enviroment. I was watching the movie rounders, and after watching the scene where the wise judge tells his student lawyer that 'the last thing that i took from my jewish teachings was that you don't choose your destiny, your destiny chooses you.' After this i guess i was given the motivation to go and smoke the salvia. I retreated to my room, closed the blinds and turned off all the lights in my house that might leak through into my room. I was going to attempt the complete darkness and silence method. Although i did put a cd in that i could turn on incase the silence became too much to handle. This was my second time smoking salvia, and my first time smoking it by myself. The first time i had done it i was rendered quite incapable of moving so i wasn't so worried about having a sober sitter. I was abstinent from all drugs or anything of the sort for 5 days either side of the experience. I beleive that this helps to increase mental clarity. Still, i was very -- no, extremely -- nervous to hit the bowl. My first salvia experience was something else. I have a fair amount of experience with LSD, but lsd does not come anywhere near to the levels of salvia. My first salvia trip brought me to a level of intensity similar to that of my most intense acid trip, which nothing else has ever even come close to. After a short meditation session i let go of some of my anxiety. I asked myself: what are you afraid of!? The truth? Why what a silly thing! Ignorance is a fool's joy! When i was opening the salvia container it kind of burst open and spilled all over the counter, but still left some in the container. I just scraped up all of the stuff that had spilled on the counter and packed it into my bong, resulting in an abnormally large hit. Right before i took the hit i asked out loud for guidance in my life. I torched the bowl and inhaled deeply from my bong, and held the hit in for a few seconds. I let it out earlier than i should have because i was still fairly nervous about tripping on salvia again. At first i wasn't sure if that was going to be enough, but after 5 seconds i started to come up. I lay back and embraced the drug. The initial stages of salvia for me are almost always the same. Reality begins to dissemble into quasi-independent reality frames. The frames seem to layer ontop of eachother and this lining up of the frames appears to form what is subjectively thought of as our reality. Although each frame does appear to contain a reality of its own, these frames somehow are all the same but subtly different. For example there might be one frame for one second and another frame for the second following that. In this way you might think of the frames as representing different points in time. However really there is no difference between them at all. It's like in normal life you experience time linearly, from one moment to the next. But on salvia you experience time laterally, all moments at once. So this ferocious stream of reality frames takes over my being, forcing my conscious over and out of them. I am no longer inside my body, but rather sitting ontop of these reality frames that encompass my body. I view them flowing by, almost completely helpless to what is happening. There isn't much going on at this point apart from the abnormal perception of reality and time, and sitting in the darkness is getting quite irritating. Ok, this is a bit much. I thought to myself. I flail my legs and arms around a little bit in an attemp to regain control over my body. After a few seconds i am somewhat more reimmersed in my body, and after a few more seconds i was able to get up and enact my emergency plan -- i turned the music on. It was a nice soothing mix cd with some calming trance songs on it that i had made earlier. The first of which was 'perfect' by markus schulz. This should allow me to get more of a grip on reality, and a sense of time. I had taken the hit in the floor but since i was already up i went over to go lay down on my bed, since i figured that would be better than the floor. I was very uneasy at this point. I was regretting even smoking salvia at all. I was getting no insights, no useful hallucinations, just a completely fucked up altered state of consciousness. The stream of reality frames was still flowing by, and i was still somewhat outside of my body, but not like at first. The reality frame perception always hits me the strongest right after i take the hit and completely overtakes everything, after a few minutes i am usually able to get a little more control back. I was cursing myself for not just finishing the movie and going to sleep. I was just about ready to have a full-fledged psychological breakdown and freakout. I wasn't sure if i would ever come down. I reminded myself to keep it together and that it didn't matter if i came down or not. I tried to calm myself down and embrace what was happening. I regained some of my composure and actually attained a fairly calm state of mind. The song ended, and the next track 'just be' by dj tiesto came on. Then, something incredible happened. A few minutes into the song the stream of reality frames that makes up what we would consider reality, began to peel back. Everything that is, reality, time, my sense of identity, this world, this life, began to peel back. The reality frames from a distances formed what looked like a long tentacle going upwards in this underlying layer of exitence. But what this underlying layer of exitence was, was simply the godhead. Here i was, peeling away from reality into this underlying layer of exitence which contained the godhead. I was half in reality, half in the underlying layer -- experiencing both simultaneosly -- slowly drifting further and further away from this life. The strange thing about god is that (he?) was split up into what seemed like numerous different entities in this unerlying existence. Now i am somehwhat of a pantheist, and i beleive that god is essentialy a more pure expression of ourselves. My conscious identity of self suddenly jerked to attention as to what exactly was going on. Whoa, i don't know about this. It thought. I pulled back some into this reality. I signaled to the entity that i simply was not ready for something so profound as having my ego dissolved into the godhead. It seemed to understand and lessened it's grip on me. I slowly began to return inside the tentacle containing our reality and back to this life, and eventually completely. I am not entirely sure that i wanted to know what i had just experienced. Ignorance it seems, is somewhat comforting. After the song ended i was very ready for the trip to be over and since it had been about 10 minutes i went downstairs and continued watching my movie. I figured that would last me pretty much until i returned to baseline. But i really didn't come down all the way until i got a good nights sleep that night. I was still tripping very slightly for a few hours after the experience. I managed to get to sleep fairly easily. Now let me tell you something about these extra-dimensional 'god' beings. There is more than one of them, and they demand absolute respect and submission. You cannot compete with them in the slightest. You cannot impose your will in their presence. They will do with you what they want. Only once you have completely submitted yourself to them, will they let you rise to their level and consider your wishes. Should you encounter a being such as this, keep this in mind. The next day i awoke refreshed with a renewed view on life. I have never been so glad to be alive. This supreme essence had given me this incredible gift of life, and had then even given me a second chance in it. However the moment of near-unification was the most incredible thing i have ever felt. I strive for this, it is our purpose, our meaning, to acheive this unification. However i was simply not ready for it at the time. I instantly recoiled at that touch, and begged to stay. The only explanation I can give for that reaction is that the intentions of the soul for this life have not been fulfilled, and the soul is not ready to leave yet. We must first pass through the void of consciousness. I also gained knowledge of some of the inner workings of existence itself. In the way that this reality is really just an inner working of god and his reality, so could god and his reality just be an inner working of an even higher level of existence. This is the nature of things, i beleive. Just an infinite series of realities; one encompassing another, with sentient life being born and the bottom and working its way up. This is sometimes a scary thought. I felt much better in my everday life for some time but the afterglow soon wore off. The funny thing is that after this trip i lost all motivation towards what i was originally seeking from the trip. It is going to take a long while to integrate all of this into my life, and learn how to accept what i have learned. Some months later i am still not quite there. Sometimes when i think about it i remember how incredibly lucky we are to be alive, and it fills me with a warm feeling. I will enact my destiny and fulfill my soul's karma in this life, so that i may move on. But in the meantime, i am incredibly happy to be here. We should indeed cherish our mortal moments. -- this totally blew the hinges off the doors of perception for me. by far the most intense psychedelic experience for me. although maybe my main 12 hour lsd peak at bonnaroo this summer might rival it. i was tripping for days. but i don't think i would have had that trip, if it wasn't for this one. salvia opened my mind like no other. it's influence reminds me every day.
Now THAT is how you should do salvia! Thankyou for the read: it summed up perfectly the experience for me, but I will try to add to it! I found this to be extremely good advice: It can take many forms for me, all which seem to accomplish the same thing. I have often experienced a faint, yet steadily growing buzz immediately after taking the hoot. This builds as I feel myself shifting away from my current state of being. The physical sensations can be extremely unnerving before I break through. I have felt as if I was sinking into whatever I was on, as some nameless void opened behind me. This has also taken the form of "reality zippers" seeming to pull their way across my consciousness, snipping it into pieces before I am shattered into fractal-being; This state where everything exists within everything else, which was so eloquently described above Salvia is amazing in that it is an utter and complete merging of ones existence with the universe. Nothing has completely overtaken my senses and relentlessly assaulted my illusion of knowledge. All assumptions broken, all ignorant "truths" dissolving into the infinitely interconnected web of existence. It can last as long as one wants it to, this fractal state, as anytime I have ever wished to come back to physical reality, back I came. It is by far the most nerve wrenching and downright terrifying experience I have ever had. One note about this plant: it is the most powerful substance I have ever tried. It is currently legal. It looks like nothing more than a common houseplant and is easy to grow: we should be growing as much as possible! Grow enough to supply anyone who wants it, as I fear it may be made illegal soon. Mind you salvia would be ridiculously hard to prohibit as we certainly wouldn't have huge grow ops of it, it is quite self-limiting. But who really cares what's legal or not?