Do you really mean to tell me that you actually believe in the myth of "Bin Laden" and his team of box cutter-wielding ninjas ? You can try converting me to your belief system, but let me tell you right up front that I intend to remain a devout non-believer in this particular fairy-tale, i.e. unless you can provide me with some genuine evidence instead of the usual "b.s." that was fed to you by the controlled mass news-media. The belief in "bin laden" is something which led to a prolonged US invasion of Afghanistan. Could it be that we've been bombing and starving and disemboweling "goyim" all these years, simply on account of some silly myth that was created by Wolf Blitzer and his bosses at CNN studios ? After all, we were bombing and starving and slaughtering Iraqis for many years prior to 9-11, and that's why it kind of gets me to thinking that MAYBE the myth of "bin Laden" wasn't really necessary after all. Don't you think that MAYBE the government could have invented some other "reason" for invading Afghanistan, i.e. one that didn't have to involve mass murder ? I mean, if the government was being truly serious about the idea of invading Afghanistan, the only thing they REALLY had to do was to put their puppet on television and to have him read a speech in front of the cameras, right off the teleprompter, and have him rail into a gargantuan tirade about the evils of "Islamo-fascism." It would have been sort of like a football coach giving a lecture to his team, and the hordes of football fans would have ate it up ! I mean, they were already instilled with a predilection for slaughtering Arabs (an inclination that was instilled into them after many years of exposure to the evening news), so don't you think that MAYBE they could have been prodded or persuaded into taking up arms against the Afghanis, only without having a(ny) "false-flag" attack(s) like the one(s) which took place on 9-11 ?
"Arab conspiracy" makes far more sense to the hordes of beer-guzzling football fans who've been lied to all of their entire lives by the zionists who own and control the lie-spewing newsmedia. Jewish terrorists probably did the crime, btw, since they went on Israeli television and explained that they were present in New York City on that day (9-11-01) because they were there to "document the event." It must have been "funny" to those Israelis, since they don't regard goyim as human beings. It was good fun to them, and they got what they wanted.
I find it very ironic that most of the Chanology/Anonymous people were banned for making crude jokes on these forums. And *chan is looked down upon but Jew hating Nazi moonbats are tolerated. I'm serious, truthers really are several levels lower than scientologists. I sort of understand now how scilons can be brainwashed into believing that ridiculous science fiction stories are real. And I really do believe most of them believe that they are trying to save mankind. This past Saturday I was in D.C. to protest the new Scientology Ideal Org and two young girls came up to us asking how much money the pharmaceutical companies were paying us to protest their event. There is no doubt in my mind that they believe that story they were told just as fervently as you believe that our government did 9/11. But truthers do not have to go through hundreds of hours of soul destroying training routines and auditing sessions to be that fucked up. You came into this argument with your mind already twisted beyond belief by a burning, insane hatred. A hatred of the Jews, The United States and its international policies and especially of George W. Bush. As I said before, most scientologists really do think that they are helping but when they realize that they are not being helped and are not really helping other people many of them wake up. I feel sorry for you because your hatred is so strong you will never wake up. Also, if you're just trolling...well done.
We can only speculate as to how anyone can possibly believe in all of that nonsense about "bin laden?" Is it because they enjoy watching television ? Is it because they're extremely gullible and hence completely unable to think for themselves ? Is it because they have a "thing" about Arabs and Moslems, up to the point where they're willing to place their belief in just about any conspiracy theory, no matter how far-flung and convoluted, just as long as it makes the Arabs look bad ? Or could it be some combination of the aforementioned factors ? "Inquiring minds want to know." I don't see anything wrong with bringing up the facts about the history of Zionist-Jewish terrorism and its probable connection with the events of 9-11-01. I prefer dealing in facts, no matter how uncomfortable they may be.
I don't like criminals who blow up buildings. I would say that they should be held accountable for their actions. It would seem as if the criminals are making an effort to hide behind behind the "sacredness" of their ethnicity. But it's a real shame how they've been so successful at scapegoating innocent people. We need to stop pointing our guns at the innocent Arabs.
I promise that if you make one more ad hominem attack against me, that I will do my very utmost to get you kicked out of this forum. Now please stick to the subject matter. I have already done a pretty good job of destroying the "fire" hypothesis. The issue at-hand right now is "cui bono" or who it was that stood to gain the most by planting explosive charges in those buildings.
Nah, you didn't, in fact multiple people have said this yet you're so into yourself you're convinced it happened. And for the record the fact you're allowed to post here perplexes some people.
But it wasn't just "me" ... I also had plenty of help from the links I posted, which effectively prove the absurdity of the nonsensical "fire" hypothesis. One link which I intend to post in the future, is the link to an article which appeared in the journal "Fire Engineering." Nobody was able to counter my debating points at all. It was just a simple matter of using ordinary logic and reason to debunk that "fire" theory; but after that, the conversation soon began to deteriorate into personal attacks against me, culminating in the asinine accusation that I must "hate Jews" because I am convinced that 9-11 was carried out by the State of Israel. I think that it may have something to do with the fact that the internet still remains a relatively independent means of expression. You can submit ideas on the internet that would never see the light of day anywhere else. Of course, there ARE some people who seem to take it for granted that they can shut up anyone who disagrees with them, and it seems to get them very upset whenever they encounter a message poster who is able to think outside of the "reality" which they have created. These people seem to rule just about everywhere: they rule in the press-rooms, they rule in the radio stations, they rule in the television studios and they rule in the halls of government, but alas, they do not rule on the internet.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not traitor, he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.” –Cicero, 42 B.C.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020802...ions/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html << "Maria, who asked us not to use her last name, had a view of the World Trade Center from her New Jersey apartment building. She remembers a neighbor calling her shortly after the first plane hit the towers. She grabbed her binoculars and watched the destruction unfolding in lower Manhattan. But as she watched the disaster, something else caught her eye. Maria says she saw three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of her apartment building. "They seemed to be taking a movie," Maria said. The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. 'They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange,' she said." >>