Most "bad trip" free RC / most popular

Just curious because someone recently commented to me about how they had a bad trip on shrooms, a good trip at first, but then bad.

What RC would be the least likely to induce a bad trip. Or maybe there is one that is impossible to have a bad trip on? I mean, I guess if something is not very psychoactive at all, you wouldn't have a bad trip, but that's because there is no trip.

I guess I'm asking what has the highest chance of a good trip, that's trippy. (I'm guessing 2C-C?)



Then also I'm wondering if anyone has found anything to be popular, beyond just your own personal interest. I would throw out there as a guess Mephedrone, MDPV, Dimethocaine (maybe not so much), and perhaps O-desmethyltramadol though that one doesn't have much info out, I would guess the others would be the most popular.

 

aMT for both questions.

 

ketamine !!!

 

2ct7 always provided everyone I've known to have taken it with an amazing trip.
You can't dose as high as I'd like to with it though, cuz it'll kill you -_-.
From what I've seen DPT is one that could give a frightening experience to someone that's inexperienced with how intense something like that really is.
As far as popularity, K. If we're counting that one.

 

We shouldnt, since its not a "trip" like with serotonergic psychedelics. But Ketamine can get very dark. Theres a lot of death-orientation with it, particularly in k-hole doses. I have seen people freak out a little thinking they were literally dying, forgetting where they were or that they took a drug. Including me. Once you get used to it its always dandy, but that first time or two in the k hole . . . man. I was saying goodbye to everyone I loved in my head and preparing myself for whatever comes next.

 

i think 2cb would be the most friendly chemical out there.

 

K is my favorite drug ever, I don't find it incredibly dark although a bit confusing. Obviously taking K hole doses isn't suggested if you want to avoid a possible scary experience, but imo nothing in this world beats a nice mid sized dose of ketamine and I have never had a trip I couldn;t handle off it. Of course I have bled like a gallon out of my nose and gotten so disoriented I forgot who I was and where I was, but the entire time its like you are in the comforting brain fog of ketamine and overall its enjoyable as fuck. Very addictive though =/.

Also I find ketamine to be incredibly psychedelic, just not in the same way as like 2c-b etc. It takes shit to a whole other level of tripping balls, in a way no other drug can really match besides maybe DXM (DXM to me feels like very dirty even less clear headed ketamine).

 

I would agree. DXM feels like dirty K. It's only been experienced once, twice. Twice, one time, on day, you know?

DXM is somewhat stimulating, so seems the K. I know someone who loves to play StarCraft and other computer games on DXM whenever that is indulged on... and he even played and won several games of StarCraft the first time he did K! With time dilation.

Haha, yes, at one point, there was no knowledge of said substance being taken (while playing the game, and winning!) That's the only thing I've heard of that can make you forget you took anything. And the time dilation.

Although, the second time that one time, there was sickness and allergies and basically it was stuffed up the nose and it was a nightmare sort of because, well, it was scary the first time just because it was the first time, but the second time, it was stuck in the nose and when trying to evacuate it either through deeper absorption down into the stomach, or through dumping it out of the nose, both methods failed and just increased the elevation more and more each attempt over a period of about 2 hours. Eventually it ran out but it was so frustrating and somewhat scary because it couldn't end.

This was off of 60 mg total!! 20 the first time, 40 the second... That is amazing to me, such a small amount I think...

What do you think a nice mid sized dose is?

 

40-80mg ish

 

Ketamine is 1000% not a research chemical.

Neither is 2C-B.

 

2c-c is ALL GOOD...i don't know anybody who's had a bad trip on it, even at high doses.

a lot of my friends loved mephedrone, but it gave a lot of people strong negative side effects.

people seem to love 2c-b, 2c-c and 2c-i...some people love 2c-e, but some can't handle it.

a lot of people like methylone, but E-tards usually don't even feel it...everybody i've dosed with 4-aco-dmt has also loved it...but there's still possibility for a bad trip...but that's half of it's magic

 

yea...ketamine is VERY addictive

but equally amazing if you don't do it too often.

 

I agree with this. I couldn't control myself with it after a while though. Had to put my foot down and give it up completely.
I might have some again one day but I need a long break from it first.

 

yea...when it's constantly around in large quantities i go nuts, but when i start to run out i slow down, because by then i'm often doing over a gram a day...

i make a point to skip a few days a week, and once i run out it's not a big deal....though i really do think keatmine has pretty much cured my anxiety disorder...after my first big binge [a total of about 12 grams in 2 weeks] i haven't felt anxious without a completely normal reason for it.

 

That is very weird. Haha, and a large amount.

You know what's funny? No migraines since that one day K was done twice, only 60 mg has ever been done. It must be a coincidence... but maybe K would have similar restructuring of the brain as LSD would in terms of stopping migraine occurrences.


I, personally consider K to be an RC because its use seems to be overlooked or ignored, for reasons of possible psychedelia, or simple ignorance. I guess I look at RCs as outcast medicines, and therefore I include into the category LSD, MDMA, and DXM (in terms of psychoactive use).

Interestingly, all of these are complete synthetic chemicals, and, hey, look, it's the "Synthetic Drugs" forum... it's kind of funny that Ketamine threads in this forum get moved, but I understand how it would fit into pharmaceuticals thread, because it was initially created as medicine, but then so were LSD and MDMA, right? Haha, I digress...

 

Wow, DXM is my favorite drug ever. Now I have to get my hands on some K.

 

For sure they are quite similar, obviously the same mechanism to some degree. ketamine is nice in its short duration; easy to slip trips into the day, even full k-holes.

 

I really don't think DXM is that much like ketamine.
I mean, yes they are in the same class of drug (dissociative), but they're so very different.
I really dislike DXM in practically every way, but I absolutely love K. Even at high doses.

 

Did you use pure pharmaceutical grade DXM powder or chug a bunch of cough syrup? I think that K and DXM are def different drugs and all but I think they have quite similar effects. It is easy to tell they are in the same class of drugs when used. I think DXM feels like a 'poor mans' ketamine. I used to absolutely love DXM but after trying ketamine for the first time I didn't feel any desire to ever use DXM again.

 

Yeah, this is spot on. DXM has a lot in common with K but it does feel a bit more dirty. I've always gotten an INSANE itch, even with ~99% pure DXM powder.

That being said, I have friends who love the stuff. From what I've heard from them you can go a lot deeper with DXM than you can with K but it leaves you a complete wreck afterwards.