Do you know your religion?

Yup, that's like a Christian bringing up the actions of SOME atheists and use that to say that atheists are immoral. That simply isn't true.

Same It's hard to find online sometimes because so many people have an agenda and it slows down research quite a bit.

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The majority of Christian's don't even know their religion, just what they were taught from Sunday school and their parents, and their parents, and so on...
I'd like to see their faces if they did some real research on how it was formed, the original symbols used, the traditions the "borrowed" from other cultures, mainly pagans, and all the death and sacrifice making it stick until powerful enough to control the masses.

Sorry if this offends anyone, but there's no religion higher than truth, no matter how much one bends words to fit within their "faith".

No matter, I still have respect for people, and live and let live, each to their own. It's not my right, nor the Christian's, to tell others how to live or worship.

 

Doesn't offend me. Even if I don't believe what you say is the truth, I still liked the heart in which you expressed yourself.

Many Christians today only learn parts of the Bible. Sometimes only the Gospels are taught and the 'old testament' ignored and I don't believe that is the correct way to teach Christianity.

 

A lot of Christians don't see the Old Testament as being very important. I disagree with this view.

 

I mean that it can shine better light in understanding Christianity because it is what lead up to Christ; kind of like passing the torch. The Gospels are essential though. Just meant that it's important to teach the whole of the Bible rather than just a part.

Do you agree with that?

 

Generally, yes.

By the later first century, the split between Christianity and Judaism became more and more apparent and Christians were tossed out of "their synagogues" (to steal a phrase from Matthew).

Jesus also said it was not that went in that defiled, but what comes out.

I used the term Gentile because the majority of Christians were not of Jewish heritage by the second century.

 

I meant that I disagree with the view that teaching the Old Testament is unimportant. Maybe I should have written it better, I wasn't disagreeing with you. In fact I completely agree with you.

 

And I agree with you both, although Christians are no longer under "the Law" that does not mean that we have nothing to learn from the principles contained there in and it is impossible to fully understand Christianity with understanding the Hebrew Scriptures. In fact I believe the Hebrew Scripture contain the keys to understanding the whole Bible.

 

There is much in the Old Testament on End Time prophecy. We still have much to learn for our future in these ancient scriptures.

 

Oops, mb

 

Actually the key to understanding the whole bible is to practice the sayings and observe and experience the effects in your life. Our understanding is not necessary to accomplish this. Only a little willingness to try on the exercise.
I know this would leave you without much to say, but it is God's great wisdom that these things are revealed to children.

 

I probably didn't word it well. Actually I looked back over it just after I'd posted my reply originally wondering if it might be misunderstood. Then I though, nah they'll get it.... guess I should have gone on first instinct.

 

For some one with no understanding, you seem to have a lot to say.

 

An index card presents as much understanding as you do when you quote scripture, without relation to the experience of life as it is lived.

 

And I see your "understanding" leads you to be insulting as well. I suppose that is what you call "practice the sayings" so you can understand the Bible.

 

Yes you do understand my viewpoint correctly. I'd like to direct you back to the context of the vision. The situation at hand had nothing to do with food but with Peter's attitude towards Gentiles.

Acts 10:28 "He said to them: You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any MAN impure or unclean." NIV

Some translations use the word anyone instead of man. Yet again Peter makes no reference to diet. This verse makes it clear that Peter understood that the vision was a rebuke of his attitudes towards Gentiles. He makes no reference to his vision pertaining to diet. It seems that Peter's anti Gentile attitude was an ongoing issue as later on in the New Testament Paul rebukes him for refusing to eat with Gentile believers during a communal meal.

Remember that the Bible does say that God is the same yesterday, today and tommorow..

Modern science has shown that pork is unhealthy as it is loaded with saturated fat and all pigs are born with trichanae(spelling?) parasites in them. So why would you want to eat an animal that is full of parasites, wallows in its own feces and eats its young?

I'd like to point out the the diet given to Adam and Eve in Genesis 2 was a vegetarian diet that did not include meat of any kind.

 

Christians are not under the restriction of the Law as to clean and unclean foods. They are required to abstain from blood and things that are strangled, that is, things from which the blood has not properly been drained. (Ac 15:19, 20, 28, 29) But aside from this Bible injunction, they are not to make the eating or the abstaining from certain kinds of food an issue or try to govern another person’s conscience by their own conscience as regards the eating of food. They are warned, however, against eating food as an offering to idols and against stumbling another person by insisting on exercising their Christian freedom in the matter of eating food. (1Co 8; 10:23-33) Christians should not put the matter of food or its handling ahead of the Kingdom and its spiritual interests.—Ro 14:17; Heb 13:9.

 

You find what you seek brother. I do not intend to insult you, I was comparing practices.

 

Yes and I seek only the truth.

You do a pretty good job of doing what you do not intend.

And what practices were you comparing?

 

If it is truth that you seek, why do you find error. It is in your accusation against me that you find me insulting. When we judge we feel judged regardless of whether or not, in truth, we are being judged.
The practice of looking things up.