i've been reading some stuff by mantak chia, especially about having an orgasm without ejaculation and redirecting sexual energies. it's pretty easy for me to prevent myself from ejaculating (and losing all of the energy that goes with that), but i can't seem to have an orgasm at all... the last time i tried this with a girl i was going for a good 40 minutes, but i never had an orgasm. so what's the deal - it seems that the non-ejaculatory orgasm is more energetic than physical... i've been practicing the big draw, so is this happening mainly because i'm not circulating enough energy for an orgasm (or maybe a full body orgasm)? i'd appreciate any advice if you have experience with this
Is this where you press hard on the perineum just before coming? That's the only way I ever experienced of having an O w/o anything coming out. It still drains you but not as much as spurting stuff.
yes, i use my pc muscle to prevent ejaculation - the problem is that there's no orgasm. oh, and if it drains you then you might try re-distributing your sexual energy - i don't feel drained afterwards. also, you can receive a woman's orgasmic energy... but yeah, no orgasm for me. the rest is okay.
That's pretty much like the Tantric masturbation I've been practicing. I'd avoid pressing down on the perineum if I were you, though. I've read different stories about it, but many doctors agree that doing so could potentially cause erectile dysfunction. It's not a super heavy duty part of the body, after all. When I do the Tantric masturbation thing, I can have sort of an "almost orgasm" type thing. It still feels great, and I believe this is something you have to keep practicing so that it gets closer to the actual sensation of a conventional orgasm. I haven't reached that point yet, but I can now squeeze my PC muscles really tightly and avoid ejaculating while still applying very light stimulation to my penis. I find this keeps you at that "just before orgasm" stage without actually going over to the next "ejaculation stage".
cool, thanks! but is 'pressing down on the perineum' different from squeezing the PC muscles? i thought the latter was just putting pressure on your prostate. that's weird about the erectile dysfunction because it sounds like a lot of taoist old guys do fine! recently i've been able to stay at a point really close to ejaculation for a while, paying close attention to where i am and preventing actual ejaculation by squeezing the PC muscles. i was actually able to have the muscle contractions that come with a typical orgasm without releasing anything! they weren't as big, but it was nice. i'm still pretty curious about the 'full body orgasm.'
No problem. Well, the whole perineum thing is an ongoing debate I think. The PC muscles are a good set of muscles to strengthen anyway, so doing Kegel exercises should benefit you regardless. I'm curious about the full body orgasm as well. There's also the breathing technique and meditation that you're advised to incorporate into the experience as well, but I have yet to reach that point yet. With my Tantric masturbation exercise, it's not like I do it every single time. I'm a masturbator first and sometimes I just do it without making an exercise out of it. It isn't really a religion to me or anything, I just try to work on it so as to improve my performance.
i've been doing belly breathing and the 'big draw' visualization. when i meditate it has no connection to this stuff... but there seems to be a lot of references in writing on the topic to 'brain orgasms.' with the big draw you hold the PC and bring energy to your brain, spiral it around, then store it in your navel. it feels pretty good to do this. but yeah, you're right about it requiring some time... damn i wish i had a new girlfriend to help this... come along --- i should mention that before i started working on this i couldn't figure out what to do with my sex drive; i thought i would reduce it as much as possible until the next girlfriend... but it shouldn't be extinguished and it turns out that sexual energy can be used in a constructive way! i wish there was more education about this kind of thing though...
Yeah, I think especially with this kind of experience where the emphasis is on the spiritual side of things, it would make a world of difference if you had a partner who you could actually connect with on that deeply spiritual level. I remember some of the stuff I've read had talked about intertwining your spiritual self with that of your partners during lovemaking so that the combined sexual energy would create certain phenomena such as the mutual "brain orgasm", or even something like "out of body orgasm", whatever THAT is. So I can imagine it may help to have a partner who is compatible with you on the spiritual level. But in the meantime, you're absolutely right. When your sex drive is really high, you can either let it become a problem or you can use that energy to further learn about your own sexuality. I agree, though; there isn't enough information on this sort of stuff available on the internet, especially for free. I just try to google any word that comes to my mind that would suggest the concept of, in my own case, the Tantric masturbation. In your case, I suppose you could search "brain orgasm", "whole body orgasm" or whatever related things. All the best with your journey!
No worries. Yeah, it sounds pretty out there. But here, I found something about the subject... Source: http://www.universal-tao.com/FAQ/healing_love.html The Soul Orgasm (Out-of-Body Orgasm) As both partners develop their soul bodies, the orgasmic energy can eventually be transferred into them and circulated. Upon transferring this energy, both soul bodies should be projected out and merged. (One's partner should be at the same level of expertise to achieve this.) Both partners project the orgasm to each other through these bodies and exchange their energies in the space above them (the lower mid-plane). At this level, one feels an entirely different orgasm which lasts a very long time.
