Is LSD linked to scizophrenia and depression?

Ok, So to start off I'm 18 and have experienced with LSD about 5 or 6 times in about a 1 month period (just taking 1 hit every time) My other history with psychedelics is mushrooms 3 times and LSA hbw woodrose seeds once, and they've all been both good and bad experiences. Typically what would happen is I would be tripping and having a good time, then during the comedown I would get really uncomfortable with the people I'm around, tremendous ego death, and I would get really too myself and just start doubting myself and the whole world basically. On LSA (woodrose seeds) I remember going into a deep panic and actually wanted to kill myself I had such bad ego death.

I've heard from a thousand people that LSD WILL CHANGE YOU FOREVER! but what I'm wondering is, does LSD amplify certain mental illnesses? I honestly think that LSD has turned me scitzo because ever since I started taking it I feel like I can't focus on ANYTHING without going into deep depressing thoughts. I'm not exactly saying I hear voices and talk to an alternate personality but I can't read a whole paragraph anymore I just can't focus and start thinking about shit. It's kind of scary to think that you're bad decision making has costs you your sanity and well being for the rest of your life. But again, I dipped my toes in acid and know a lot of people who do it a lot more than me but are just fine.

Back during the hippie counterculture days my parents tripped on acid a lot, my mom was a pcp addict and my dad was a crackhead at one point in there lives, you can tell they're kind of affected by it. My dad might be a little scitzophrenic because my sister has said she's heard him talk to himself so I think maybe it's a mental illness in my family? and I remember my dad warning me not to do acid because he said it's almost like a "sixth sense" you get where you start to see the true evil in things.

I'm not looking for people to copy shit off of drugs.com and give me an answer,does anybody else know anything about this? or experienced anything like this ??

 

not to be a dick but i feel like there are thousands of threads about schizophrenia in the LSD subforum... you gotta look back and do a search... you're probably going to get as many different answers as there are people answering.

basically, it is very possible that you have something going on with you... no one is very clear on the exact relationship between LSD and schizophrenia/other mental illnesses but what is known is that LSD doesn't *cause* these things. if anything, something was triggered that you were already predisposed to.

but even that doesn't matter at a certain point. what matters is that you are at the point you are at now... so instead of getting caught in the trap of ruminating and going over this again and again, just focus on moving forward.

 

i think it just affects everyone differently man. i know someone who would have a good trip, but then always feel crappy or depressed on the comedown and especially the next day. she didn't like feeling hopeless the next day, so she doesn't trip anymore.
other people feel great the next day or few days - an afterglow.
it is a common thought that LSD can "release under-the-surface issues" like schizophrenia or depression, so if you feel like that maybe you should just not trip. you will feel better with time.
on the other hand, if you want to try tripping again, just try to get over those bad feelings at the end. sometimes the trip is so good, you might just be bummed that it's over? but just try to shake the negative feelings and tell yourself that it's all in your head, you'll be fine in the morning

 

Yes, LSD can and has been documented to bring out latent mental illness. My advice if you are really having trouble would be to seek professional help.

I doubt you had a high enough dose to experience true ego death or dissolution. Sounds more like your world view has been undermined and that in itself can leave a person feeling as if they have no foundation for themselves anymore. Like being in a raft going downstream without a rudder.

As far as your parents use goes, PCP is a very damaging substance and I hope she didn't suffer to much from it. Same goes for crack or any stimulant. Talking to yourself is perfectly normal, it's when you start answering and arguing with yourself that I would be concerned.
Seriously though, if your life is as disrupted from it as you say, seeking professional help might just be the wisest course of action.

Hope all goes well with you.:cheers2:

 

In all honesty it sounds like "I hang around with people who I do not feel comfortable around while I'm tripping", "I see further into things than I was accustomed to", and "I haven't yet learned that psychedelics can change the way you think, and will highlight how my way of thinking has effect on everything I do or experience, and I normally think depressing thoughts".

This is great news! All you have to do is think about the world in a positive way, and your sadness might resolve (unless you have clinical depression, but that's a different story). Look at the way things really are, rather than what you think them to be, and your dad helping himself think or reciting his favorite joke in a perfectly normal fashion might not be a menacing terribleness anymore. If you feel uncomfortable around your friends while tripping, trip alone or find other people to trip with.
Deep thought is the cornerstone of creation.
Change is the only constant in life. Embrace it.
If your thinking makes you sad, think of things differently!
Tripping is exercise, you might be tired when you are done.
And lastly, find something fun or useful to do with your new you. Seems better than being bored while thinking you're insane.

In all likelyhood, you're completely fine.

 

Strat those are some words of wisdom, thanks!
really helped motivate me to just getting back to my normal self. It really has only been about two weeks since I've tripped so it might take a little longer until I start feeling crisp again.

The thing I noticed is, and the thing with me; you have to have good self confidence and ego to take acid. If you're on a drug that sparks a lot of self-realization, you can't be no bum. I took acid majorly during a period where I was dating a girl with 2 secret boyfriends (one being me, and me being the secret) and I lived with this girl 24/7 in my dark little room where all we would do is smoke and fuck and all sorts of wacky hard drugs. Now that lifestyle is over, I gotta get back to my normal self and shit. That's when i think the acid screwed me because it's made me feel really stupid. Like, I can't spell anymore and was always a confident speller. Everytime I have to drive on the highwa I miss my exit.

This shit must pass, don't want to be stupid forever.

 

You did all sorts of wacky hard drugs yet your sure it was the acid that screwed up your cognitive abilities?


Haven't I heard this somewhere before?
Peter Popper is that you? :toetap05:

 

Ego death made you want to kill yourself...?

But 'you' would already have been dead... what was there to kill?

 

Sounds like if you experienced ego death none of those problems would have arised. In the sense that all the issues you mentioned are ego related.

 

No. But often times those conditions are made worse by LSD.

 

Yeah Lsd helped me realise who i really am and want to be, it made life so much easier to just go with the flow and make everything better. It does kinda suck if you can't do it anymore though for one reason or another.

 

I remember my third acid trip I took two stamps of a blotter with a picture of albert hoffman riding his bike. I was fine at first and then I had the same "ego death" you are talking about, I was to the point I wanted to kill myself because it made me realise how unhappy I was. I was in a dreamlike state where I imagined a gun in my mouth and I could feel the numb pain that death would be if I pulled the trigger. It felt so real, as if I actually did kill myself. This was also strange to me because I never have suicidal thoughts.

Acid isn't for everyone and after that trip I realised how dangerous of a drug it can be. Last summer I tripped 3 times within one month and I did notice the change in me. I couldn't concentrate and I was becoming very manic, happy one minute and sad the next. I even wen't to a job interview and I couldn't make eye contact because this lady had a really powerful aura surrounding her, it was so wierd. After I quit taking lsd things slowly got better, I wasn't panicing as much and my attention span came back. My advice would be to lay off of it for awhile.

 

that's a great description of exactly what ego death is not.

 

hey man similar things happened to me about a year ago, and im still feeling the negative effects, but know this man its all good for you you will ge through this and you will be much smarter from it. You arent skitzo you would definitly know if you were, i still question this at somepoint to but i just simply tune it to background noise. What you have to know is that your sub-conscious is much smarter than your conscious and what you are going through right now is for a reason. Even think that all of this is coming out for a reason. Just keep pushin on buddy you will get it.

Hope i could be of a help
Much Love
-Dis

 

Look into it. If you brush it off as a bad drug experience none of your issues will be resolved. There's a reason why your trip went the way it did. Have good intentions and trust yourself. Acceptance is key.

 

life is intense.

LSD is one of the most intense parts.

Intense things will change you!!!

 

Live intense!

 

LSD can definetely make underlying mental health issues come out, or magnify them. This happened to a close friend of mine. He had always been kind of strange (but I like strange people) and I knew that he probably had some issues but I wasnt really sure what they were. Wewere at a friends house where he was throwing a little party/rave. Well I gave him one hit and he was already on ecstacy and that night/day turned out to be one of the most intense of my life. He was acting really weird all night, almost like it was a different person. There was about 20 people at this house and he told evreybody that he was gay, most of the people there had basically grown up with him so it was kind of a shock. And everybody was tripping face so this was some intense shit might I add. Then he started like confessing every bad thing that he could remember that he had done in his life and I wont repeat anything he said but some of it was just horrible. Then he would start crying and then like somebody flipped a switch or something he would be cool and joking around with people, totally different person. He went in the backroom while everybody else was smoking blunts in the living room. He had been back there for a while so we sent someone to go check on him, he came back white as a ghost and said that he was standing in front of the mirror naked with a knife in his hand. Everybody was scared as hell at this point. He came out butt naked and sit down indian style with everybody like everything was normal, and everybody ran out of the house. I ended up helping him sort shit out in his head for months after this trip cuz sadly after that I was the only person that really talked to him for a while. That experience scared the shit out of me, he told me some really fucked up shit and it's forever scarred into my memory. He eventually got into a better mental state but has never been qute the same. So if you have some serious mental issues I suggest staying away from LSD or any psychedelics.

 

Think of LSD as an amplifier, sounds like you are in place where you are not very happy with your life, and you may have some repressed feelings you are not dealing with, LSD just brings to the surface what is already there. You can't make it a scapegoat to say that it is what is causing these feelings

Therapy is not a bad thing, when things are not going great in your life especially when you are young, you can tend to focus on the negativity. If you start doing good things for yourself, and for others, then you can start to focus on being positive. I remember things that happened to me when i was your age that seemed like they were the end of the world, i/e problems with girlfriends etc, but trust me it gets better. You have the choice of making it better, its all up to you.

The brain dead feeling does go away with time if you have been experimenting with drugs quite a bit, if you focus on being healthy it helps a huge amount.

 

That's a relief